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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
The Nasadiya Sukta
1a The non-existent did not exist, nor did the existent exist at that time.
There existed neither the midspace nor the heaven beyond.
b What stirred? From where and in whose protection?
Did water exist, a deep depth?
2a Death did not exist nor deathlessness then.
There existed no sign of night nor of day.
b That one breathed without wind through its inherent force.
There existed nothing else beyond that........
Part of ancient Hindu Vedas...
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It is very difficult for we western Abrahamic centered persons to understand, and let alone translate the meaning of "The Nasadiya Sukta." accurately
First there are language difficulties, and
more importantly a very different cultural and philosophical orientation.
All you have done is paste what appears to be a a jumble of words. On the other hand, some important inner concepts, and Hindu cosmology.....
Commentary...
The ‘Nasadiya Sukta’
https://www.speakingtree.in/blog/the-nasadiya-sukta
The ‘Nasadiya Sukta’ is perhaps the most scientific description of the ultimate Reality as well as of the projection of the phenomenal world. It makes the relative and the Absolute, nature and Spirit, the twin aspects of that one Reality and shows that men of wisdom (kavayah), who had controlled their senses, found out the ultimate cause of this world (which appears to be real) in their own hearts (hridi)
....Rig Veda says in the sixth verse, who will know and who can declare when and where from it all started since we, the seekers were not there and also the causative forces were not present. They came later. Even gravity broke away from the presumed unified force later.
Veda makes it clear that
so long you are in search of the causative forces only, you will not get the answer.
****(Zen elaborates on this. The improper intellectual mind is out of it's league.)
Will the universe eventually stop expanding and start contracting or will it expand forever? Stephen W. Hawking, famous theoretical physicist of the present day, says in his book “A Brief History Time”: “If the density of the matter in the universe is greater than the critical value, gravity will stop the expansion at some time in the future” . As we are not in a position at present to calculate the density even to an approximation, we cannot answer the question.
Robert Jastrow confirms there is a theory in the scientific world envisaging a cosmos that oscillates forever passing through infinite number of moments of creation in a never-ending cycle of birth, death and repetition. This has the advantage of being able to answer the question – What preceded the explosion? (In his book “God and the Astronomers”). Veda also says that this creation and its ending is a repetitive cycle.
Very very different than the Jude-Christian cosmology up until modern cosmology.
Carl Sagan.....
