These entities are typical of failed (Non-Profit) business models. Suffolk OTB especially, gives absolutely nothing back to the Bettor. That's if you call betting $15,000 plus grand in a month and receiving maybe 1% to 1.5% the following month (you have to call and remind them though) Nassau has gone from OK to worse, but not as bad as Suffolk. The major goal of the OTB managers is to yield a healthy retirement with continued benefits. Most could care less about the Bettor or keeping their business. It's pretty sad.