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Old 11-07-2018, 02:32 PM   #36
Sea Hero
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Pardon me, but you sound like a shill. And not just because your very first post is about this software (though that helps....a lot!)

If I remember correctly, Mike Groves (Quickhorse) was an authorized advertiser here not that long ago. Why would he bother to shill his software after that?

The free data from Quickhorse doesn't need Equibase authorization. It doesn't use an Equibase product for its data, and its ratings are all home-made. Mr. Groves has been doing the same exact thing for many years, and if it was against Equibase's terms of service, they would have shut him down a long time ago.

Now before I get accused of being a shill, I'll offer my own review of QuickHorse, which isn't favorable.

It offers free data (ongoing for the price of the yearly subscription, also the entire data set can be downloaded with the 30 day trial). The user can also use Brisnet "single" files, which the user has to supply, in order to get some Brisnet ratings instead of home-brewed ones.

The software is very pedestrian. It's a crude reinvention of several old wheels. The software comes with several pre-built "columns" which are simplified uses of one factor or another, and some "methods" that are comglamerations of said columns. For personal systems, a simplified version of Reverse Polish Notation is used to input personal systems/columns/methods. Users can input differentials between column ratings to achieve a higher win percentage. Testing is done on a track-by-track basis. There's no way that I ever found to test multiple tracks at once.

The net result of all of this is that the free version will achieve a modest win percentage, and the ROI with the free data will be in the range of 15-25% loss on almost everything. I tried 90 days of BRIS files, and that improved the win percentage some, but the ROI seldom got better than a 15% loss. In other words, the software sucks for making money. It's a nice toy for those who want to fool around with their own systems or those provided, and test them by track over a long period of time, but it isn't a tool to use for profitable play, and it isn't close.

Mr. Groves has another product, for greyhounds, that uses the same interface and pulls data from freely available greyhound programs. It's known as Quickdog. That software does better, mainly because there's virtually no competition for it, but it also has trouble reaching profitability, since pools are small and shrinking every year, and almost everybody who still seriously plays greyhounds is using the software.
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