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Old 09-14-2018, 10:59 AM   #61
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Below is a voice of reason and knowledge.

He's absolutely right on every single count (not that he needed confirmation from me to be believed).

To understand the extremes in poor connectivity, there are still a couple of small tracks that MAIL their charts into Equibase!

Sure, it is an unrelated analogy, but that would mean their tote feed connection is dial-up (because they're in the woods).

Pay special attention to what he's saying about "past posting." Nobody can say that it never happens. But the claims that the whales win because they've got a huge past-posting operation going is just plain laughable.

Hey, Gorrex... Maybe spend a moment and tell them a little about the level of scrutiny that an ADW gets.



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Originally Posted by Gorrex View Post
One thing to clarify in the late odds shifts.

Its not just the "last second" money but can be potentially up to 119 (+/- latency) seconds worth of bets in that last cycle.

Tracks(totes) generally aggregate wagers into the pools/odds once every 30 or 60 seconds. 30 seconds is becoming more common, but not yet standard. Depending on if the remote system is in sync with the host it can be up to 29 or 59 seconds behind the host. It is again, more common now for the host to force cycles on the remote but NOT standard.

So worst case scenario is a remote can be sending pool data for 119 seconds worth of bets in the last cycle that is triggered by the post time lock message.

EVEN when in sync you are still talking a full 30 to 60 seconds of wagering in the final push.

Now.. given most bettors don't go to the window until 5 minutes to post and ADWs. How much of that last 1 to 2 minutes of wagering is whales vs average players?

Whales get blamed for a lot that is simply a function of the technology the industry uses. Also lots of "Past Post" claims are false for the exact same reasons.

Last edited by Dave Schwartz; 09-14-2018 at 11:01 AM.
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