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Old 06-05-2018, 05:40 PM   #6575
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But Jesus said to love your neighbors as yourself and to love your enemies. He never said don't bake cakes for gays.
Nor did Jesus ever teach that we shouldn't bake cakes for, or in some other way celebrate the lifestyle of, pedophiles. Your mental myopia is prohibiting you from seeing the vast beauty of God's green, lush forest (i.e. His Word).

Jesus also didn't teach that love tolerates, condones, supports or approves of sin or sinful lifestyles. Godly love can never do these things. Godly love cannot rejoice in unrighteousness but only in the truth (1Cor 13:6). How much less Jesus then...since he's the King of Righteousness (Heb 7:2)?

Did Jesus, who was always filled with the Holy Spirit and all His nine fruits (the first and foremost being Love (cf. Gal 5:22-23) ) tolerate, condone, support or approve the sins of the money changers on the two occasions he drove them out of the temple with a scourge of cords, or when he told the Pharisees that their [spiritual] father was the devil, or when he pronounced the eight woes upon the Scribes and Pharisees, or when he pronounced additional woes upon hearers of his second Sermon on the Mount? Or did Jesus give a wink and a nod at the lifestyle of the adulteress when he told her to stop sinning (Jn 8:11)? Or did he forget about or overlook the sins of the cripple he healed when he told him afterward to also stop sinning so that nothing worse would befall him (Jn5:14)?

The Christian baker truly understood the holiness of God and how God could never in any way, shape or form tolerate, condone, support or approve of sin or sinful lifestyles, nor does God want his adopted children to do so. The Christian baker acted out of his conscience and refused to send any signal at all to the homosexuals that he approved of their lifestyle. The baker also understood, I'm sure, that sexually immoral people will not inherit the kingdom of God (1Cor 6:9-10; Gal 5:19-21; Rev 21:15.).

And for your info, Jesus gave strong affirmation to the sacrament of marriage between a man and a woman that is first recorded for us in Genesis. Listen carefully to what Jesus told the Pharisees when they asked him about divorce -- divorce, mind you.

Mark 10:2-10
2 And some Pharisees came up to Him, testing Him, and began to question Him whether it was lawful for a man to divorce a wife. 3 And He answered and said to them, "What did Moses command you?" 4 And they said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away." 5 But Jesus said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. 6 "But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female. 7 "For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, 8 and the two shall become one flesh; consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 "What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."
NASB

There were four options from which God could have chosen when he created man in terms of the kind of sexual relationships in which he expected man to engage . He could have created:

a.) Steve and Adam
b.) Eve and Bev
c. ) Steve, Adam, Eve, Bev or even more.
d.) Adam and Eve

With the first two choices, same sex sex would have received approval from God.

With "c", anything-goes-sex would have have received approval from God.

But with "d", only adult, heterosexual, monogamous relationships are approved by God. Adam and Eve were God's prototype for the entire human race (in more ways than one, I might add). Note carefully how Jesus echoed the OT creation account. "For this cause", i.e. FOR THIS REASON...the two (i.e. man and woman) shall become one flesh. So...the God of Love approves, condones, tolerates and supports one kind of sexual relationship with all those made in his image and likeness. And the male and female must be of age...because they both must be mature enough to leave their father and mother. So...God doesn't approve, condone, support or tolerate child sex.

So, while this sin-filled world of ours (or even more specifically our very own culture in this country) wants to "separate" what God has approved of by expanding on it through through miscellaneous and sundry immoral sex acts including but not limited to lesbianism, sodomy, pedophilia, beastiality, etc., none of these can be tolerated, condoned, approved or supported by God.
In fact, God gives hardened sinners over to a depraved mind to commit these very kinds of perverse sexual acts, according to Paul in Romans 1. God actually punishes people in the here and now by giving them over to this kind of depravity -- and once He does this, there is no turning back for them -- ever! They will never repent of their sins because they're not able to turn to God. They will never have the desire to repent of their sins.
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