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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire
boxcar said:
Also, constructed a straw-man by arguing against a point, not made:
The only pointless thing is your logic. Follow along. You say it is symbolic, ignoring the declaration of fact by Jesus. Even if I agree with your logic Jesus caused the apostles to sin. Well if it is symbolic per your interpretation, then Jesus made the apostles sin symbolically. We know real sin can be symbolic in our hearts we can murder, without actually taking someone's life, and commit adultery though thought. So any way you examine the issue Jesus commanded the apostles to sin, even if we follow your logic trail.
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There is no such thing as symbolic sin. A man literally hates someone and by that hate he is a murderer. An adulterer literally lusts in his heart after a beautiful woman and in so doing he committed adultery with her in his heart due to his literal thoughts.
The evil thoughts and desires and intentions from people's hearts are symbols. They are real evil thoughts, according to Jesus. And these thoughts, intents and desires are what defile a man, according to Jesus. The things that are literally in his heart. Nothing symbolic here.
There is no such thing as symbolic sin! Since you struck out right here, the rest of your post is just as much nonsense as your opening paragraph and not worthy to be addressed.
