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Originally Posted by dilanesp
That's slippery.
Obviously Beyer says he is only measuring the performance, not how the figure was earned.
But he also says that his figures are the single most important handicapping factor, the way, the truth, and the light, etc. And he specifically argues that you can compare horses' figures where they finish way back to other horses' winning figures. And he dismisses the "not perservered with" reasoning and ignores the "sucked in" issue.
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From his comments I think he consideres all aspects of trip when evaluating past performances, but I don't believe he includes all aspects of trip when making his variant projections.
For example, TG and RAG consider ground loss and weight changes when making their projection variants. TFUSA considers the pace and how it may have impcated the horses. Beyer is mostly just looking at prior figures and not consiering the ground loss and pace (unless perhaps it's very extreme like on turf). To me, in theory you should be including everything, but that makes a subjective process even more subjective. So there's an argument against it too.