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Originally Posted by reckless
Europe is being overun and destroyed thanks to unfettered immigration and wide open borders by Muslim haters and criminals, plain and simple. Just because countries gave them all a green light with their One Europe policy doesn't make these rioters right, do they? And you don't know this? See this? Have read about it? You must be kidding, feigning ignorance.
You could be in denial all you'd want to, Rich, but try and open your eyes for a change. And the reason the European Union is burning to the ground and their women are regularly being raped is because of these same haters -- they being Syrian and other Islamic 'migrants' that are over-running France, Belguim, Germany, and Sweden.
I am not looking for any kind words, if truth be known. The Muslims and socialist activists feed on the weakness of people such as yourself, so I am not worried how people feel about me or my willingness to shed some light on the issue.
The free world is under assault and once more I say to you: open your eyes. Political figures here and especially in the EU not only ignore what is happening but will get tough with people who publicly call out what is really happening to their country.
You never mentioned the contents of the clip I posted. What do you think about the clip? Did you watch it?
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I don't think it is a case of denial. The situation in Europe is different than it is in America, and I should have been clearer that I don't think any American group, politician or public figure has ever suggested the borders should be thrown open Euro style. Nobody has suggested that the current vetting process should be abbreviated for refugees. If the clip and the posting were meant as a warning, I don't know who needs reminding in this country.
I believe the situation in Europe is complicated. For one thing, they don't have the same vetting process we do. Except for Cubans, if you just show up you don't get into America. You simply can't let tens of thousands of people from a culturally very different place, without vetting, and not expect problems. Most of the refugees that have been resettled in America have been sponsored, often by church groups. I've been to France and I've seen what amount to ghettos where they have packed in people and made almost no effort to assimilate them. The unemployment is high, the prospects for those people bleak. My point is that Europe never adopted a system as we have.
There is no feigning ignorance. We're talking apples and oranges. The situation is Europe is not the situation in America, and my point was that there is no one in America arguing for open borders or allowing in hordes of refugees without any vetting and no plan to resettle them. Whatever mistakes Europe is making, America is not making them.
I simply don't buy your argument about weakness. I've said on a number of occasions that we should have secure borders. That we should have an effective vetting process for immigrants. That we should have sponsored resettlement plans Where we depart is that I'm fine with the humanitarian resettlement of refugees in America. As I said, I know of no political figure in this country who believes we should fling open the borders. Europe isn't burning to the ground nor is there a rape epidemic in places like Sweden, at least not if you believe the statistics. Let me say clearly that there are problems with immigrants in Europe, but a lot of the hyperbole comes from the alt-right and anti-immigrant press (like Breitbart). Ironically, I did open my eyes - in Europe.
While we can agree about the need to have a strong immigration process, we can still disagree on whether refugees from war-torn middle eastern counties should be allowed in after vetting. And while we can agree that there are issues in Europe, we are going to disagree about the hyperbolic characterization of rioting, crime and rape. Don't assume unless you are over the top you are naive or in denial. There are a lot of emotions at work, not the least of which is fear. I'm simply of the opinion there is a place for compassion. I get that you think letting anyone in is dangerous. I just don't think you are correct.
