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Originally Posted by classhandicapper
That’s who tended to overrate him a bit. I was taking about handicappers that were constantly trying to beat him since fairly early in his career as if he was some kind of overhyped dud.
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Not sure who this subset was that tried to beat him in his listed stakes, Grade 3 starts, or races where Visitant was his main rival.
I'm sure there were some taking a stand against him in the Whitney and the Woodward and they were proved correct (thus not underrating him).
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My point was that he was somewhere between the hype and anti-hype.
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Perhaps he was at a disadvantage style-wise in the 2 NY races (although that might be debatable) and you could write off his defeats there based on that rather than his relative talent/class, but as it stands he lost his 3 most important races this year and did nothing outside those losses to offset them.
