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Originally Posted by boxcar
No, premise begs the question. In atheistic materialism, it is implicitly understood that the cause for a finite universe must be natural, which precludes any possibility for a transcendent (supernatural) cause. (In other words the "crime" took place "inside the room , not outside of it.) Therefore, the the natural cause must be by, in or of the universe (i.e. the room) itself. Ergo, the universe caused itself.
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What it comes down to is, after all my hard work, you still do not understand logic ...
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Originally Posted by boxcar
And while the late Prof. Hawking and Mr. Penrose don't have any answers for the origin of the universe, you, conversely, have insisted that the universe is eternal. Have you, too, changed your mind?
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... and you refuse to accept "we don't know yet" as an answer to a scientific question. You worship the god of the gaps.
