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Old 08-03-2020, 10:42 AM   #189
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Originally Posted by Poindexter View Post
When PTP made his post I went into my xpressbet account to see what the other pools showed. In the double from the 3rd to the 4th I calculated quickly in my head around 13-1 or so on this horse, not 8-1. Even the winning double from the 3rd to the 4th (a 13.20 winner to the 8-1 payed 151 and not the parlay amount of 121) In the exacta pool on top and in the double going from the 4th to the 5th using the closing pool he was about a matching 8-1 in both, but I have no idea what the pools were showing a minute earlier. I assumed they were both hammered late like the win pool, but I take it you are saying otherwise.

By the way has the racing industry done anything or considered doing anything to make these equivalent odds easily viewable for everyone? A simple odds equivalent next to(or above) each runner on the exacta and double probables would do the trick. Might help people not get so outraged when their horse drops from 3-1 to 7/5 after the bell.
DRF has done it with the Projected Odds tool in Formulator. It isn't perfect, as nothing will be for this, but it is certainly better than what you see on the tote.

I certainly don't think Andy was saying to use the exacta pool or the double pool into the next race. Why would he, they are usually going to mimic the win pool as you say. They don't provide "tells" of what is to come.

I use the Projected Odds tool and if I don't have Formulator open at the time I use the double will pays as a rough guide. Betting is tough enough it is probably something we shouldn't have to worry about, but we can either adapt or we can complain and take the short end of the stick. Since I don't want to leave money on the table I adapted. That doesn't mean I don't think the current model sucks big time but I can't do anything about that.

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