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Old 06-12-2018, 10:18 AM   #25
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Using Beyer figures to compare horses from across anything from say about 2009 is a giant waste of time, this was covered extensively in another thread.

I dont believe for a second Justify would have trouble keeping up with Grade 3 horses of the 80's and 90's, but if you believe the figures he would not have.
There's no question that in general the figures have declined at the very top of the scale. I think I estimated it at about 6 points since the early 90s among the top males and a little less among females. I looked at the data and may even still have it somewhere. Now, in the last couple of years we've had a few 120 figures again (hmmmn).

There could be a lot of reasons for all this, but I'm not buying that horses are getting slower anymore than I'm buying that there are Grade 3 horses now that could beat Secretariat based on Thorograph.

Figures are a great tool in general terms, but they are not a good way to compare horses across years when we are talking about a few 1/5ths of a second, new surfaces, and all the problems with keeping them in line.
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