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Old 10-13-2021, 01:01 PM   #31
Rex Phinney
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Originally Posted by 46zilzal View Post
Pointing to a statistical OUTLIER does not reflect the overall situation...Learned that from Malcom Gladwell's great book by the same name.

The hospitalization rate among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 ranged from effectively zero (0.00%) in California, Delaware, D.C., Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia to 0.06% in Arkansas. (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)

The rates of death among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 were even lower, effectively zero (0.00%) in all but two reporting states, Arkansas and Michigan where they were 0.01%. (Note: Deaths may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)

from https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/cov...om-the-states/
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About 436,711 people have been fully vaccinated in Vermont. The breakthrough cases represent a small portion, about 0.3%, of the fully vaccinated population.

Since January 2021, 6.5% of cases among Vermont residents have been fully vaccinated.

There have been 30 hospitalizations and 10 deaths among the 1,209 cases of vaccine breakthrough in Vermont. that is 0.00827 of the total.

Meanwhile, the age range of COVID cases has shifted in August. Now in August, cases are most prevalent in the 30-39 age group (55.8 per 100,000) and 0-9 (53.2/100K). But overall since the start of the pandemic, the 20-29 age group has by far the most cases (65.9/100K) followed by 10-19 (55.3/100K) and 30-39 (51.2/100K). The 0-9 age group is at 36.5 per 100K. Those under 12 are still ineligible to receive any vaccine.

The VDH did not offer an explanation of why there was been a shift in cases in August.

from https://vermontbiz.com/news/2021/aug...vid-deaths-275
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From the quoted inital article " just eight of the 33 Vermonters who died of Covid-19 in September were unvaccinated, the Vermont Department of Heath said Wednesday.

Health Department spokesperson Ben Truman said most of the vaccine ‘breakthrough’ Covid-19 fatalities were elderly. Because they were among the first vaccinated, Vermont’s elderly “have had more time to potentially become a vaccine breakthrough case,” he said.

“For example, there were a total of 33 deaths (as of 9/24) among fully vaccinated people since January. This is a fraction of a percent of the vaccinated population – now nearly 450,000 people age 12 and older. This is an indicator that vaccines are working to protect the vast majority of Vermonters from the worst outcomes.

NO spin required

You're such a freaking clown.


First off quit citing articles from July. Yes dipshit, the article from kff.org is from July, that was 3 months ago. A lot has happened since then, namely the vaccines have quit working. The article also plainly shows that half the states are not even tracking breakthrough cases. So we would have no data to even know if vaccines are working or if protection is dropping.


Second, the elderly have ALWAYS been the ones dying from COVID. So saying only the elderly are dying post vaccine is pretty stupid.


Finally if you want any credibility at all you should quit spewing about numbers "since January" it builds in several months BEFORE the vaccine was widely in use (so of course no vaccinated people died or were hospitalized) and it doesn't accurately depict what is happening with waning protection.



California is one of the only states actually tracking breakthrough cases. In July the vaccinated where already accounting for about 33% of all cases. After the initial reporting came out through August and September the numbers have mysteriously gotten very hard to come by. Imagine that.

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