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Old 05-14-2018, 06:28 PM   #10
thaskalos
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Originally Posted by clicknow View Post
Are you asking "how do you cap horses and races w/out speed figures and workouts?"

What do you mean by "in the dark"?

You can keep a racebook, learn the track configurations, which ones run counter and clockwise, how the race conditions are written, tightness of turns, learn trainer/jockey combos and colonies, how horses do coming off AW versus turf, who is on way up class ladder, watch replays of prior races, what preferences the horse has, etc.

Anybody just using mostly speed figures never solidly beat this game so maybe better to discuss othere stuff. I have found great benefit wagering in jurisdictions that have a centralized authority like Aus, JAP, HK.


You speak of "in the dark" wagering.....that would be not being able to cap the drugs and injuries that aren't in a database for the bettor to see.....i.e. U.S. racing.
IMO...handicapping without fractional times and length-behind information is the equivalent of the "dark ages" of the handicapping era.

I congratulate you on your success while wagering on these foreign racing jurisdictions, but I wouldn't bet even a thin dime without the detailed past performances that I've gotten used to in this country. The abbreviated PPs that are now available for foreign racing aren't even on par with the sketchy PPs that we had in this country 50 years ago...and I want no part of that sort of game. My hat goes off to guys like you and Nitro, for managing to beat that type of game...but it clearly isn't for me.
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