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So you are unique, heh? You are not time-bound.
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That's right. My soul is eternal.
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God does not incarnate the universe because that would at once make him mutable and immutable, which is an absurd contradiction. God, as the Logos, would violate his own laws of logic, which he also created.
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Your rules, not God's.
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When you say that God IS Energy, you are making a statement about his nature (essence).
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I told you several times his essence is Divine love, which is a form of energy.
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Since God cannot be measured, then he cannot possible BE Energy that is measurable. This would be another contradiction.
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No one is measuring God's energy FYI.
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Also, Energy could not exist apart from Space and Motion. This is why you cannot logically or even scientifically isolate energy from the rest of the fundamental elements that comprise the basic structure of the universe. Energy requires Space and Motion. And wherever there is Motion, there is Time, for time is nothing less than the progressive succession of motion. Buy a sundial someday and check it out. Watch the days and nights fly by.
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Point being?
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Also, without Matter occupying Space, Space would be very empty and imperceptible. Matter actually defines Space, just like furniture in an empty room defines the room. The only way we CAN know Space exists is due to the existence of Matter in all its three components (Motion, Energy and Phenomena). In other words, Matter is to Space what Christ is to God. Jesus in the flesh reveals God the Father to us, likewise, Matter reveals Space to us.
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Point being?
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Also, if God is mutable then there is no guarantee that he can't change his essence. God could cease loving and feeling nothing toward his imagers or even hate them.
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Poor analysis.
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In short, to borrow Paul's analogy, the Potter (God) who creates the pot (let's say the universe) is not the pot. Also the real world doesn't work that way (temporal reality as we all know it). A builder who builds a house is not the house nor is the house the builder. An artist who creates a painting is not the painting and the painting isn't the artist.
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Poor analogy. God is none of that.
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Finally, God cannot possibly be the universe because the universe cannot contain him (1Ki 8:27; 2Chron 2:6; 6:18). Yes, it could contain the idol of your god that you have erected inside your head, but it cannot contain the God of divine revelation. So, your god is not only impotent (since it's beyond him to give true understanding of his revelation to people, according to you) but he's also very small, since he's only the size of the universe.
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I already agreed that the finite cannot contain the infinite. It does not mean the infinite cannot create and be part of the finite. You may remember my use of the term
multidimensional as an attribute of God.
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As stated on previous occasions, the otherness of God is beyond human comprehension; but here you are trying to play the genie by sticking God inside a bottle and calling him/it the bottle (i.e. the universe).  |
God is ALL which means beyond your poor interpretations of the Bible.
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And just as aside, since I brought up idols: If God is all and all is God, then why is idolatry forbidden everywhere in the bible? Why does God expressively forbid the making of anything in any image, and worshiping it? If God is a chiseled stone or carved wood idol, then what is the big deal?
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I don't worship idols. And I don't worship the universe as God. I already told you that is paganism. I worship, or more correctly I aspire to be one with God who dwells within me. At the same time I am aware that God is in all things and in all people and that is why all things and people should be respected. Otherwise you disrespect God, indirectly.
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Finally, I never cited Jesus as AN incarnation. Jesus is THE incarnation of God. As in the one and only. And I explained how this was possible without violating any of God's created laws of logic.
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I only agree that Jesus is/was an incarnation of God. You can have your laws. God is not bound by any "laws".
