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Old 08-17-2021, 02:34 PM   #14
thaskalos
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Originally Posted by classhandicapper View Post
Boxcar,

I have a similar distrust of mainstream and a similar approach as you.

When Covid first started I did a lot of research. I concluded I should take extra vitamin D3, C, A, and other immune enhancing supplements. The thing is, if it didn't help there was no downside to what I was doing.

That's different than someone telling me the vaccine is going to cause all sorts of health issues, I should not get vaccinated, and I should take his supplements instead. If he's wrong (or lying just to create sales), I'm screwed. So I have to weigh what he's saying vs. the possibility that thousands of doctors and scientists are knowingly lying about the vaccine and untold people are going to die or get very sick because of it.

My guess is the truth is somewhere in between. The risks of the vaccines are probably a little higher than they know or are letting on so far, but that's because they are making a value judgement that the risks of the vaccine are lower than the risks of Covid. It's what I've recently been referring to as the "noble lie". They know they aren't telling 100% of the truth, but they think they are doing a greater good by not scaring people about the risks and encouraging the vaccine.

That's what I've been objecting to. I just want the truth. Then as individuals we should decide (with our doctors and families) what we should do. At 62, I chose to get vaccinated, but I am still contemplating whether to get a booster in several months. It's going to be a VERY tough decision for me because I am operating in ignorance.
The "thousands of doctors and scientists" are not just engaging in 'noble lies'...they are downright lying to the public and creating the most unhealthy society that the world has ever seen. How much criticism did Robert Atkins receive for many decades from the "establishment" because of his low-carb health advice? And only now, long after the good doctor has died, has the establishment finally embraced Atkins' concepts...even though MILLIONS of people through the years had experienced astonishing health improvement by following this pioneer's health guidelines.

Screw the "thousands of doctors", and do your own research when it comes to "health and wellness"...I say. And start BEFORE you get sick, because when serious sickness strikes, the fear and the desperation that accompanies it makes it almost impossible for us to shun the "conventional medicine" that the establishment wants to shove down our throats.

My wife was stricken with cancer in the year 2000...and the doctors at a much esteemed hospital gave her six months to live. Since conventional medicine couldn't cure her, I suggested to her that we follow the alternative medicine route, along with the "conventional" procedures that our 'mainstream' doctors were already prescribing. But when my wife discussed this with her "mainstream" doctors, the doctors laughed at the idea...and outright called alternative medicine not only a fraud...but also counterproductive to the "effective" treatment that they themselves had in mind for her at the hospital.

Fast-forward five years after my wife's death, and I myself was diagnosed with an advanced form of cancer...which the "mainstream" doctors told me would kill me in a year's time if it was left untreated. Even though I was the sole caretaker of a then 9-year old child...I totally ignored the "mainstream" doctors' advice...and relied strictly on the alternative medicine that the doctors had laughed at during my wife's ordeal. I decided to look to the MAVERICKS for my survival...and not to the mainstream fraudsters who are currently masquerading as "health care professionals". And...not only am I still here to tell the story, but I am also in the best health and shape of my life...three months shy of my 60th birthday. And my deepest regret is that I wasn't persuasive enough with my wife some 20 years ago.

And now, when I hear the "mainstream" fraudsters peddling the company lines that the pharmaceutical companies have fed them...I am reminded of what Linus Pauling (look him up) once said:

"There will never be a cure for cancer. Because, no matter how many people are dying from it...there are even more people making a living from this disease".
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