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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
My point is that discussion of the so-called Deep State is problematic because everyone has a different idea of what that means...
..I think that the image posted is what a very large portion of the so-called “conspiracy theorists” believe comprises the Deep State..
..Do you think that this is what Donald Trump means when he intimates that the Deep State is trying to undermine his presidency...? If you had to graph the Deep State, what would your Deep State look like...?
That is all I am asking for here...and that some agreement can be reached regarding what a Deep State actually is...otherwise talking about it is futile, and in fact, as in the recent case of Turkey, the nebulous idea of the Deep State can be flipped around and used by authoritarians against their detractors at will...
Trump, after all, seems to believe that Rosenstein may be a part of that nefarious Deep State that is trying to undermine him...this type of rhetoric is very much like Orwell described in 1984, with his depiction of the rouge followers of EMMANUEL GOLDSTEIN... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--ims7stNEN...0793-1-402.jpg |
I already explained what I think the "deep state" is.
I just don't know the names of all the individuals.
It's a loosely related group of people within the intelligence community, mainstream media, and wealthy private interests that try to shape public opinion and impose their own politics on the country. They are willing to spin, lie, deceive, be corrupt, kill people, etc... to accomplish their personal political and economic goals.
And when I say "kill people" I don't just mean in war. I am including false flag operations and assassinations (probably even kill Americans).
Gangsters kill people all the time for small change compared to the stakes in international economics and politics. Why would anyone be naive enough to think people aren't getting whacked for massively higher stakes?
Conspiracy theories abound because people intuitively know this kind of stuff is going on. They just can't prove the details of any case. That's not surprising though when much of the media is part of the deep state.
