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Old 01-13-2009, 09:00 AM   #9
CincyHorseplayer
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Right, but not pace calls, just final time. This is probably going to spur me on to add the missing times to my program and database from video. Every little bit can help. I'm still recovering from studying all the different turf course and about distances and rail positions though! (176 configurations in the US and Canada!)
I've often wondered about the nightmare task of making speed/pace figs for turf races because of so much data(configurations you mention) and so little data(few races/dist).How are pars even established??Does it take a 2-3-4-5 year database to have enough info to be accurate??

Even if somebody was a projected time master what do you think the error fact is in this endeavor CJ??

Plus I was just curious.The speed of a turf course is going to be reflected in the actual times but because there may only be a few routes a day it might be hard to gauge.I noticed the first 5 days at Tampa the turf course was quick but since it has seemed dull-slow.I always wondered if you constructed a variant from only internal times vs pars if it would be more accurate than the actual 1/2,3/4,final etc???

You deal with a lot more info than I do so I thought I'd ask you.I've crudely made a half mile fig(from 1/4 to 3/4)then a closing fig(3/4 to final time) in conjunction with the Beyers and have had some success.Do you think this is folly and madness or what??!!
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