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Old 02-16-2013, 10:25 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by lamboguy
this is not anything new to the gambling world. i have seen this in Vegas before where they put a baccarat shoe together. but i have never heard or seen anyone try to take down a casino for $11 million in one shot, that is being greedy. they could have got them for something reasonable like $100,000.

it sounds like Ivy tried to set them up by losing first. Billy Walters did the same thing in Roulette to Steve Wynn in the Golden Nugget in Atlantic city. he got paid because all he did was scout the roulette wheels for 2 months and figured out the bias to the wheel.

the bigger question in this case is not that Ivy and his friend took them down, i wonder how the pit boss watching the game let it go on for so long and let them win that type of money to start out. and this had to be an inside job where someone brought the cooler in and had the eye in the sky turn their heads.
they all had to be a part of the conspiracy.
Interesting that Phil Ivey's name should come up in this recent article about Billy Walters and his penchant for selecting high profile celebrities to use as "beards" for his high stakes sports wagering operation.
I guess Ashton Kutcher was his most recent associate, and he was backed off in Vegas not long ago.

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/s...egas-syndicate

Years ago, I read a book by English professional gambler Alex Bird (c.1950-70s) on his success in gambling. The close of his story listed his only regret in how he went about his business. It was that he had not used a high profile celebrity, such as Omar Sharif, to front for him in making wagers. Sharif had developed the reputation as a degenerate gambler.
Any bookmaker, or casino, in Europe would take his action - especially if he was wagering with cash.
Bird figured that he could have kept his ventures running much longer with such a front person - he had been barred all over the place.

Seems Billy Walters thinks the same way. In addition to Ivey and Kutcher - Bruce Willis, Phil Mickleson, and Floyd Mayweather have all been mentioned as possible associates of Walters. Very likely, the female companion of Phil Ivey in the London casino has, also, been an acquaintance of the gambling guru.

Interesting stuff......
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