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Old 09-19-2018, 08:31 PM   #8473
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Oh. So now God is only spirit and cannot be anything else even though God created all matter and all matter is energy.
First of all, Light, you are so caught up in your insipid pantheism, you don't even know what the universe IS. You're now getting caught in your own lie. Originally, you said that God IS the universe and the universe IS God. But what is the core essence or foundational structure to this universe? It's a lot more than energy. It's Space, Matter and Time. And Space and Time are invisible, non-physical, intangible. Matter consists of energy, motion and phenomena. And Motion consists of physical matter. You can't just conveniently, toss out the the rest of the essence of the universe and cherry-pick "energy" to try to satisfy your heresy.

Moreover, God is not only invisible and intangible, but unlike energy, God cannot be measured.

A transcendent God can indeed create things outside of himself. This is not contradictory. But it is contradictory to say that God the Spirit can be seen. That he's visible. It is also contradictory to say that God's essence is the universe, since the universe is mutable, whereas God is immutable.

Also, God is timeless; but the universe is time-bound. Again, the three laws of logic come into play here and to have a timeless God and time-bound God would violate all three laws.

Your "best friend" has also said that no one has seen God at any time, save for Jesus, yet we continually behold the physical universe.

With respect to Jesus, there is no contradiction in his incarnation which is clearly taught in scripture, since the preincarnate Christ added a human nature to his divine nature. Christ is eternal. He always existed. All he did was enter space and time (enter temporal reality), add a human nature to his divine nature and take on flesh and blood and bone so that he could offer himself up to His invisible Father as a sacrificial lamb without blemish for his Father's elect in order to satisfy his Father's justice. Since Jesus is fully divine and fully human, there is no contradiction. Being fully divine, Jesus is as immutable in his essence as the Father and Holy Spirit.
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