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Originally Posted by Light
You put God in a box. To you God is on the level of the stupidity of humans. Vengeful, angry, jealous, punitive,conditional love, exclusiveness, etc. Accessed through a book and rigid beliefs. These are all low levels of consciousness which leads to spiritual stupidity because these are insulting qualities associated to an infinite being who is not capable of this stupidity.
This is done by those who do not know God, only fear him. It is only one step above ancient ones who used human sacrifice to appease their angry Gods. God only incarnated into this world. He is not of this world or its stupidity be it human sacrifice or threats of eternal damnation.
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As usual, you don't answer the tough questions.
Secondly, quit projecting. It's you who puts God in box "on the level of stupidity of humans" because you think that he loves like we stupid, sinful, unrighteous humans do. You think that his love and righteousness are mutually exclusive attributes! You think that God cannot execute his righteous justice and at the same time be a God of love, which is neither a biblical idea nor is it consistent with the real world as we all know it. You think God's love is this visceral, touchy-feely, skull-filled-with-mush kind of love, rather than a love that flows from his unchanging holy, righteous character. Because God's love itself is moral in nature, he
must be a just God. He cannot be unjust and righteous at the same time! That would be a contradiction -- not his love and justice -- or his love and righteousness.
You think that Jesus came here to teach us how to be nice to one another and to give us some good advice or how make nice to one another -- or how to get in touch with our divine self, all such foolish ideas totally missing the real purpose that God sent his only begotten Son into this world. God took on flesh to actually pay the penalty of sin for all those who truly believe in him. And I'm not talking about the kind of faith that demons have -- because even they "believe in God" and yet shutter at the doom that awaits them at the end of the age (Jas 2:19).
True faith is actually believing God. This is taught in many places in scripture, and Jesus himself taught it.
Luke 1:20-21
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"And behold, you shall be silent and unable to speak until the day when these things take place, because you did not believe my words, which shall be fulfilled in their proper time."
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Gabriel is speaking above passage, and he was God's messenger sent to Zacharias. And because Zacharias questioned God's appointed messenger, he was disciplined for a season! For whom God LOVES, he disciplines all those who are his sons (Heb 12:6,10).
And look what Jesus said about believing what Moses wrote and believing his own words:
John 5:47
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"But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?"
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And again,
Matt 7:24-26
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"Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts upon them,
may be compared to a wise man, who built his house upon the rock. 25 "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and burst against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded upon the rock. 26
"And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not act upon them, will be like a foolish man, who built his house upon the sand. 27 "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and burst against that house; and it fell, and great was its fall."
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Hears these words of mine and acts upon them". In other words hearing here means understands. And actually acting upon that understanding of Jesus' words means the hearer
believes Him. The hearer doesn't get to cherry-pick what he wants to believe and what he doesn't. He doesn't get to sit in judgment of what were Jesus' actual words and what weren't. He doesn't get the luxury of stroking his own ego at the expense of the whole truth of divine revelation. But right here is the crux of your problem. You don't believe the Father or his Son because you don't believe what they say about their own divine revelation. You think all the bible is the product of stupid humans. The bible has largely been corrupted with their stupid, superstitious, backward, ignorant ideas about God -- but of course, you being the quintessential example of spiritual enlightenment have this ability to separate the "wheat from the chaff" -- real truth from their stupidity -- all of which is based solely on your subjective personal feelings.
You will pay a very high price for that very high opinion of yourself.
