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Originally Posted by raybo

Rod,

Do you know the variant, adjusted times, pace and speed figures, etc., for all the races all the horses have run, or will have run before Derby day? No, so you don't have all their data yet. That's what I mean when I say wait until all the data is in. At this point, unless you are creating your own variants, adjusted times, and figures, and no other Derby entries will run another race before the Derby, then you don't have all the data yet. So, how can you possibly compare all these horses to one another, and the field as a whole? Maybe if you don't use any numbers or figures you could, but most here use numbers and/or figures.

I know Ray.You don't have to take the ruler across the knuckles to me!We pretty much have seen everything we are going to see from these guys.I think that's safe to say.We all handicap differently.Personally I don't need all the grist to go through the mill to know who I like.I'm just trying to give you a nudge,as a friend and fellow handicapper,to just enjoy the buildup brother.Nothing more.