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Originally Posted by hcap
Just because we can uncover somewhat hidden truths by using allegory and metaphor as a means of "exegesis", it is not useful unless we start with a proper grounding.
In Zen Buddhism there is a koan in which the roshi (teacher)points to the moon with his finger. If the student gets lost gazing at the master's finger, he gets "whacked" with the master's staff.
The student must realize the "moon" is the object to be understood, not the "pointing" done by his instructor. There is a body of knowledge that prepares the student to begin to grasp the subtleties of how the moonlight manifests within him/her.
In your case of alleging Martin Luther's antisemitism was some sort of real moon, and to tell us not look at your frantic pointing and hand waving, it became readily obvious that your moon is a goddam fake.
Your continuous deflections using my metaphorical attempts at pointing at a real "moon" were a cheap shot to dodge the deep debating and polemic hole you sunk yourself in. Your attack on my means of pointing versus yours, was totally inappropriate and was only a device you created to avoid supporting your claim that Luther's antisemitic moon was real. Rather a stinking foolish attempt to point at a mound of horse shit.
How useful is the method of pointing, if we refuse to perceive what our noses and other senses are telling us?
Having said that, I am assuming your question... is genuine. I must reiterate, there is a body of knowledge that we need to begin to grasp the subtleties involved.
But if you refuse to be open to the the crucial elements of the world's other religions, and philosophies, and the possibility of knowing oneself PRACTICALLY, and being honest about what you see in yourself, that rather large body of knowledge is of no use, and will not work.
However if you are still interested we can discuss that body of knowledge
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Okay...so there's a "moon" to be seen in the Amalekite account but no moon to be seen in the different Judas accounts? In the former case, the "moon" speaks to you (?) and sez, "Okay, time to allegorize up". But in the latter, there's no moon, therefore, those accounts must be taken literally which is why you don't jump through allegorical hoops to perform mental gymnastics to reconcile their differences?
Am I warm here?
