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Old 04-09-2019, 10:01 PM   #25
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1) NDE's can no longer be dismissed as "imagination" or the brain's lack of oxygen etc. There are scientific studies that have been done that prove that NDE's are real. This science is yet to be accepted in the general scientific community just as many scientific facts and studies were slow to be assimilated in history.

2) Scientists have not been able to prove that "consciousness" is created by the brain. There is no link anyone can show to prove this. This "consciousness" is what seems to carry over after death in NDE's. The data that was in the brain seems relegated to a very small role to zero during an NDE. Most people who have NDE"s do not want to come back to this life because they experience love and peace on an extraordinary level not known on Earth. The last words from Steve Jobs as he died were "Oh Wow,Oh Wow,Oh Wow".

So if consciousness is not created by the brain then it is a connection to the metaphysical and the brain is our connection to the physical. This alone would prove that we are more than physical beings or that we only have physical properties.
I know two people who "died" and were brought back. Both of their experiences sounded very similar. One could "see" from above, the paramedics working on him to bring him back and my other friend could "see" from above, the doctors working frantically to bring him back on the operating table. The second person told the doctors when he woke up that he knew his heart had stopped during the operation and they were shocked when he described exactly what took place. Both said they didn't want to come back.
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