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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller
Sure!
Some of the basic tenants of facism:
 Nationalism/Ultranationalism:
The movement seeks to create a national rebirth at the political, societal, and cultural level. A return to perceived previous greatness.
See #MAGA
 Totalitarianism:
The elevation of a "strong leader" who comes from outside the existing political sphere. One who holds current institutions in little regard and largely views them as obstacles to be overcome instead of tools to be worked with.
Do I need to give examples here?
 Economic Autarky:
They view themselves as a third alternative to socialism and free-market capitalism. Fascists favor a somewhat mixed economy but are of the opinion economic decisions should be made primarily based on national interest instead of private profit.
Again do I really need to provide examples?
Some basic tenants of Nazism:
Basically all of the above but the key uniting factor is one based on race and ethnic purity and not national identity. The state was considered secondary to the unification of a peoples based on ethnic lines. Nazis were heavily influenced by eugenics and used race as the tool for unification.
Similar but very different... there is a very big difference between Franco/Mussolini and Hitler.
I could add the likes of Pinochet and some other Latin American's but they didn't run on the "national rebirth" mantra of Trump and the aforementioned fascists. |
I am definitely a nationalist but I don't fit your definition which you're conflating with extremist views, i.e. fascism.. I fit the dictionary definition much better:
Main Entry:na£tion£al£ism
Pronunciation:*nash-n*-*li-z*m, *na-sh*-n*l-*i-z*m
Function:noun
Date:1844
: loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups
Loyalty and devotion to a nation and having a sense of national consciousness is as natural as breathing. Whereas, the antithesis to this philosophy (globalism) is unnatural and abnormal. As stated recently in my post to Mosty on another thread, Trump and most of his supporters look at fellow Americans as our "extended family". We have common values, we share our fondness for the culture, share the sense of greatness of this country, etc., etc.
But the extreme view of Nationalism is Fascism, which is defined as:
Main Entry:fas£cism
Pronunciation:*fa-*shi-z*m also *fa-*si-
Function:noun
Etymology:Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
Date:1921
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control *early instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge*
–fas£cist \-shist also -sist\ noun or adjective , often capitalized
–fas£cis£tic \fa-*shis-tik also -*sis-\ adjective , often capitalized
–fas£cis£ti£cal£ly \-ti-k(*-)l*\ adverb , often capitalized
Nice try, though, in trying to lump the two views into one.
