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Old 04-29-2020, 08:29 AM   #12
Ted Craven
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Some various answers (perhaps some repeats):

1. minimum wager for US ADWs in all pools is US$1.30 (except XpressBet which is $0.13). You also receive 1.3 times the posted payout.

2. Have a live video feed running (e.g. rtn.tv or your ADW). All video is supplied by Roberts Communication, so generally the same latency to HK real-time for all ADWs. The current time (including seconds) is always displayed on screen, thus, calibrate it to your own computer clock (EST is currently 12 hours behind HK time). If you dare wait that late, you can often place a bet (if it is queued up or initiated via software API) with half the field loaded. You can get refreshing odds all the while, often each 10 seconds, depending on ADW. You get a 1-minute warning to expected off-time (red light flashes at the gate). They usually don't dawdle, unlike many North American tracks.

3. At a US ADW, you bet in US dollars. HK$ prices at HKJC.com are useful for reference, but you don't bet in HK$. Move the decimal 1 point to the left to find US$1 payouts. At US ADWs, many payouts are shown to $2, so divide by 2 to get the $1 payouts.

a) Example: 4/29 race 1 (Happy Valley) Quinella paid HK$253.00 (for $10HK), or US$25.30 for each US$1 bet. My ADW (AmWager) shows the Quinella payout as $50.60, which is the $2 payout. If you bet a winning 3-horse Quinella box (cost 3 combos x $1.30 = $3.60), you receive US$25.30 x 1.3 = US$32.89. If you bet a 10,000 multiple of $3.60, you receive 10,000 x 1.3 times the $1 $25.30 payout. That number of bet units will not reduce your payout. Maybe 100,000 units will ...

4. Re optimal bet sizing (before you start depressing your own odds):

a) given the large pool sizes in every pool, you should be so lucky to reduce the odds by your own bet!

b) today (4/29) first 4 race Win pools are: US$2.7 million US$3.1 million, US$2.7 million, US$2.2 million respectively. Quinella and Quinella Place (Omni) pools are even larger. Breakage is to $.05 so your maximum/optimal bet would be an amount which reduces the pools only by a few pennies covered by that breakage. Or - by an amount you don't mind sacrificing for getting a large wager down. Speculate on what that maximum amount might be, for different pools.

c) the Tierce (Trifecta) pool is the smallest pool, roughly a fifth the size of the Win pool

d) daily pool totals here: http://bet.hkjc.com/default.aspx?url...ng=en&dv=local (bottom of page). This data is not persistent, so capture it yourself for historical reference.

5. Available bets at US ADWs are: Win, Place (what we call Show), Quinella (first 2 finishers,any order), Omni, Trifecta, Trio (first 3 finishers, any order). Superfecta (Quartet) and multi-race wagers are not available outside Hong Kong (at least not available to North American ADWs).


6. I'm looking for a US ADW for you which accepts Missouri residents and carries Hong Kong. If I find one, I'll reply by PM.


Good luck!

Ted
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