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Originally Posted by Track Phantom
Love this thread. You guys don't miss a beat.
I saw the action on #3 in the last at SA Sunday, too. I had this horse as my value play in that race and was shocked to see it higher than #9, who it had beaten head to head. In fact, if memory is correct, very close to post, #3 was 13-1 and #9 was 9-2.
The guy who posted the Daily Double will-pays is on to something. Every single will-pay to the 3 was paying out higher than it was to the 9, except with the winner of the 8th race. Think about that for a minute. Everything is in line perfectly except the winning payoff. No way this is coincidental.
Regarding the CPW situation, you're stuck with this forever. What track is going to "take a stand" against a bunch of money coming into their pools? This is the problem with parimutuel wagering. The track gets a cut of ALL money in their pools, not just legitimate, or fair, money. The track benefits from these computer programs. The track does not care about who wins the race, only that the pools are large and their cut is extracted. However, if the betting were fixed odds and the track was on the hook, so to speak, you'd be damn sure they would correct all of these CPW, late bets, past posting and other shaking things happening.
The bottom line for me is this, I don't believe in coincidence as it relates to wagering in large pools. I think money generally flows parallel in all pools. While there is an occasional anomaly, I think most of these situations are likely either outright nefarious (i.e. toteboard/pool manipulation, past posting) or borderline nefarious (i.e. inside information, CPW). The fact that the track neither sees this betting pattern as an issue nor would take any action to investigate it if they did see an issue is all the reason we should retire from the game.
I'm dead serious. Lack of integrity and oversight in the wagering pools would be the one thing that would bring this game to its knees.
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Maybe, maybe not. The inside horse went off at 8/1, and was shorter to 2 or 3 horses than the subject horse, at 5/1. If the winning combo would have been half what the 9/3 would have paid, then I'd be really wondering also, but the difference between the 2 is only about $30-$50 of DD bets.
Your last paragraph is dead on. I've been dedicated to this game for 30+ years, but the BS in this game just leaves me sick.
