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Old 02-16-2009, 12:36 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by DanG

On that subject; the famous poker player Daniel Negreanu has a philosophy called “small ball”. I don’t pretend to know my poker terminology but it’s somewhat seeing many flops / as cheaply as possible and trying to out play your opponents as the hand develops.

Long / poorly explained way of saying; “usually” the more wagering opportunities you offer a serious player / the more likely they are to take advantage and get involved. If you’re saying someone who is at a disadvantage before the cards are dealt will be hurt by the complex wagering offered (and promoted) you could very well be right.
Since you brought up poker, I recently caught an episode of Poker after Dark. The players were all guys who got started at the Mayfair Club, a poker room in NYC, back in the day, that produced a lot of world champion players like Dan Harrington and Howard Lederer.

During the show, the guys started talking about other types gambling. To a man, they all said that they would never try to play horses professionally BECAUSE OF THE RAKE.

I would agree with your assertion that more types of wagers give a bettor more opportunities to spot inefficiences. However, with the huge takeout, these "opportunities" are just more ways for the track to sucker the public, as pointed out by DSB.
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