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Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-05-2010, 10:51 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 262
At first glance on the harness side, they are...

At first glance on the harness side, they are missing Grand River, Georgian Downs, Batavia, Alberta Downs and Tioga....and probably more. On the thoroughbred side, Sandy Downs isn't there.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-05-2010, 10:12 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 328
I'm making excuses for why many players aren't...

I'm making excuses for why many players aren't playing it. I totally support them, but it is hard to bet more than a $5 double if the double pool is only $500.
It needs to get to the next level.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-05-2010, 10:06 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 328
I agree that it might be good for attendance...

I agree that it might be good for attendance purposes, though every location is different, but Horseplayers don't play as much at nights as they do during the days.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-05-2010, 06:50 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 328
It is a great deal. The problem is that Retama...

It is a great deal. The problem is that Retama races at post times that keep them under the radar. If they were racing Monday to Thursday during the day, their initiative would create attractive...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-04-2010, 08:32 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 420
Optimum takeout has nothing to do with the cost...

Optimum takeout has nothing to do with the cost of the show. It is the takeout level that tracks and horsemen make the most money bottom line.

It doesn't matter if a casino costs 25 million a year...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-04-2010, 09:59 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 420
Every type of bet has a different optimum...

Every type of bet has a different optimum takeout. Triactors and supers don't get the churn WPS gets for example. In theory the takeout rates should be higher.

Even sports betting has tiered vig. ...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-04-2010, 08:24 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 1,636
In other news, Philly Steaks are now to be called...

In other news, Philly Steaks are now to be called Parx Steaks.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-03-2010, 10:06 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,883
Even Woodbine is going to have a lower takeout on...

Even Woodbine is going to have a lower takeout on doubles and exactors than California.

I can't believe I just typed that, but it is true.

Actually, Woodbine has a lower takeout on exactors and...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-03-2010, 06:17 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,883
Again, this assumes that handle stays stagnant. ...

Again, this assumes that handle stays stagnant. It won't. It can't.
And the racetracks who aren't get any of the "raise" will wind up with a lot less.
A lot less.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-03-2010, 05:59 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,883
But he still says the owners will get this and...

But he still says the owners will get this and that as if handle will remain stagnant.
Again, a not very well thought out piece.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-03-2010, 05:47 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 1,883
I can't believe that Plonk really doesn't get...

I can't believe that Plonk really doesn't get takeout. He shows no understanding of churn, and he assumes handle will remain the same regardless of takeout.
He also buys into the stupid premise that...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-02-2010, 10:02 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 1,161
Retama starts up their short meet this weekend. ...

Retama starts up their short meet this weekend. The author here gives the impression that takeouts have been reduced, but they have not, they are the same as last year.
12% on Doubles and Pick...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-02-2010, 08:24 AM
Replies: 49
Views: 1,161
Even without a boycott, handle will fall, it has...

Even without a boycott, handle will fall, it has to.
Here is what is going to happen. Those who mainly play California tracks will get less back, some will go to the track less over time, and they...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-31-2010, 11:00 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 398
We don't know that. They could have been down...

We don't know that. They could have been down 12% without it.
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 08-31-2010, 10:54 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 5,164
Raised to 40%????? Betfair charges between 2.4 to...

Raised to 40%?????
Betfair charges between 2.4 to 5% on winning bets I believe. The 40% charge is against something like monthly profits I believe for less than 1/2% of players.
I could be wrong,...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-31-2010, 10:44 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 398
They had a pick 4 last year with the same...

They had a pick 4 last year with the same takeout. The only difference is that this year they dropped it to a 50 cent minimum.

Less races, and really tiny fields were a turn off to many I'm...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-31-2010, 09:11 AM
Replies: 105
Views: 2,350
If she has an injury, then fine, retire her. If...

If she has an injury, then fine, retire her. If she is sound, it is detrimental to the sport to retire her.

One of the biggest plagues on the industry is good to great horses become shooting...
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 08-31-2010, 08:52 AM
Replies: 123
Views: 5,164
I am completely for a level playing field. But...

I am completely for a level playing field. But it is really a non starter. Too many jurisdictions and too many laws to overcome.

How can you have a level playing field when Arizona residents can't...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-29-2010, 09:18 AM
Replies: 75
Views: 1,174
US Handle 2004: $15,836,000,000 US Handle 2009 ...

US Handle 2004: $15,836,000,000
US Handle 2009 $12,973,000,000 Down 18%

Australia Tote Handle Up 11% for the same period

I guess Australia didn't suffer through the world wide recession like...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-28-2010, 07:38 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 983
Delaware is doing a good thing here. A great...

Delaware is doing a good thing here. A great thing? No. They are recognizing the fact that on track players need to get back more in order for them to stay in action longer and the more they leave...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-27-2010, 09:02 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 983
It will be interesting how Equibase handles the...

It will be interesting how Equibase handles the payoffs.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-26-2010, 11:43 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 1,469
Companies can raise prices when demand increases...

Companies can raise prices when demand increases and get away with it. That is how business is supposed to work.

It works with real estate and on Ebay real well too.

If California racing had an...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-26-2010, 10:59 AM
Replies: 62
Views: 1,469
I find what Burns said to be disingenuous to an...

I find what Burns said to be disingenuous to an enormous degree based on his comments.

He of all people should realize that rebates or lowering takeout isn't about appeasing price sensitive and big...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-25-2010, 04:45 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 257
What extra money are they going to use? There...

What extra money are they going to use? There will be a drop in their bottom line if they increase takeout.

What nincompoops.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-25-2010, 12:06 AM
Replies: 337
Views: 6,232
1) Anything that grows the game and brings more...

1) Anything that grows the game and brings more players to the game. What he wants is what everyone should want, optimum pricing of the gambling product.

2) I could argue that he doesn't really...
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