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Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 06-29-2018, 10:48 PM
Replies: 171
Views: 19,927
Posted By The Hawk
If a horse ran winning figures of 82, 83, 81 and...

If a horse ran winning figures of 82, 83, 81 and 59, you wouldn't readjust that 59 based on his figures, and basically ignore the clock, if it also didn't make sense per the also-rans? I know that's...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 06-29-2018, 06:03 PM
Replies: 171
Views: 19,927
Posted By The Hawk
Denny is trying to make the following point...

Denny is trying to make the following point (albeit poorly, in my opinion):

ALL speed figures that are not automated can be viewed as a self-fulfilling prophecy. In other words: Beyer largely...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 02-17-2017, 10:51 PM
Replies: 393
Views: 38,389
Posted By The Hawk
Agreed. But most of them do, admittedly even some...

Agreed. But most of them do, admittedly even some of my old favorites.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 01-23-2017, 08:49 PM
Replies: 930
Views: 62,334
Posted By The Hawk
Maybe this was covered elsewhere in this thread...

Maybe this was covered elsewhere in this thread but forget the race: the most compelling aspect of the Pegasus is the admission charges that Gulfstream implemented, and they apparently got it. Seats...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-08-2016, 06:26 PM
Replies: 174
Views: 22,596
Posted By The Hawk
Almost glossed over this gem! :lol:

Almost glossed over this gem! :lol:
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 11-07-2016, 11:48 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 4,863
Posted By The Hawk
One thing I haven't heard from anyone in this...

One thing I haven't heard from anyone in this case, which I admit is interesting: Motive? If anything, I think someone would want Songbird to be declared the winner, not Beholder.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-01-2016, 09:46 PM
Replies: 73
Views: 5,599
Posted By The Hawk
Those who think this practice is acceptable...

Those who think this practice is acceptable because many other tracks do it are correct on that front. But what if ALL tracks did this? What if every single track in the country barred all horses on...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 04-09-2016, 08:07 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 909
Posted By The Hawk
Thank you for checking, I was skeptical.

Thank you for checking, I was skeptical.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 04-09-2016, 04:37 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 909
Posted By The Hawk
Ran well to be third at 8-1.

Ran well to be third at 8-1.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 04-09-2016, 04:12 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 909
Posted By The Hawk
Santa Anita Late Money Friday 4/8 Race 6?

A couple of guys I know that bet Santa Anita swear to me that there was a huge late bet on The Natural, #9 in race 6 on Friday, that he went from 30-1 to 8-1 in one flash. I find it hard to believe....
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-19-2016, 10:28 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,626
Posted By The Hawk
The Meadowlands is a much better spot due to the...

The Meadowlands is a much better spot due to the existing NJ Transit train stop, which is easily accessible from NYC (currently with a train change in Secaucus, though I wonder if a direct line would...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 01-05-2016, 10:53 PM
Replies: 1,073
Views: 313,253
Posted By The Hawk
Much like the game itself, this site needs people...

Much like the game itself, this site needs people who bet with vigor and have an intelligent opinion that can keep him in action. To lose even one would be a shame. I feel this is a bit of a...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 01-05-2016, 09:43 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 3,056
Posted By The Hawk
I don't understand OneFast, why would that spell...

I don't understand OneFast, why would that spell the end of racing? Are you saying it's not enough? Wouldn't the profits just be a supplement to the purse accounts?
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-26-2015, 11:19 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 1,032
Posted By The Hawk
I'm guessing about a 105 Beyer.

I'm guessing about a 105 Beyer.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-20-2015, 11:11 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
When you had to handicap off proofs, and you...

When you had to handicap off proofs, and you thought the line sucked, was that he day you used Equibase PP's? And what did you use otherwise, when the lines were good?
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 11:55 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
I like this idea, and was actually going to pitch...

I like this idea, and was actually going to pitch it to you, but I don't feel like I'll have the time to commit to it at the moment. It would be an interesting exercise, surely. Maybe in a couple of...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 11:16 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
Sure, sprints-sprints and routes to routes. ...

Sure, sprints-sprints and routes to routes.

I just looked at Turfway's races today. In seven of the nine races the horse with the best last-out Beyer was favored (too many races with recent turf...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 10:56 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
Let's average the last three, same surface.

Let's average the last three, same surface.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 10:16 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
Your contention is that that are many tools. No...

Your contention is that that are many tools. No argument. I think where we disagree is I strongly feel Beyers are the biggest factor in betting. If you and I were to independently make a ML -- me...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 06:01 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
They are the money movers because they are the...

They are the money movers because they are the most widely available creditable figures around. And Beyer figures are the standard by which horses are measured, as you may have seen in nearly every...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 05:55 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
What I'm saying is fact, whether you choose to...

What I'm saying is fact, whether you choose to believe it or not. I'm not going to embarrass the people who I think make bad lines but the two tracks I inquired about in fact have linemakers NOT...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 03:25 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
I say this as someone who knows what he's looking...

I say this as someone who knows what he's looking at after betting horses for 35 years. So I guess you can say I've "validated this by way of (my) own research."

Not sure how long you've been...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-19-2015, 01:12 AM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
The Equibase figures are useless when it comes to...

The Equibase figures are useless when it comes to making a ML. No serious player uses them. You may feel they are not vastly inferior, and you may be right, but the fact is that most of the money in...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-16-2015, 08:37 PM
Replies: 72
Views: 7,160
Posted By The Hawk
Beyer figures are what drives the betting. They...

Beyer figures are what drives the betting. They are the single most important factor in making a line, as they are the best figures and the most widely available. Yet there are ML makers who make...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-05-2015, 11:47 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 3,929
Posted By The Hawk
Songbird got a 99 Beyer. I believe Behrnik's Bank...

Songbird got a 99 Beyer. I believe Behrnik's Bank got a 93 or 94, and this one will probably be low-mid 90's as well. These loose-on-the-lead sprint figures for lightly-raced horses are probably the...
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