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Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 05-17-2018, 08:12 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 6,597
Posted By Tread
The rail was absolutely terrible today, so I'm...

The rail was absolutely terrible today, so I'm not sure if you are suggesting it can get worse than it already is by Saturday, but that would be quite a feat.
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 05-11-2018, 09:10 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 5,689
Posted By Tread
Awesome. I tell you the track wasn't speed...

Awesome.

I tell you the track wasn't speed favoring at all and get a sarcastic remark.

CJ tells you the track wasn't speed favoring at all and he gets
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Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 05-10-2018, 07:37 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 5,689
Posted By Tread
There have been accusations of a speed bias all...

There have been accusations of a speed bias all over the internet, and you people are not reading the charts.

8 of the top 10 in the Derby were in the bottom 10 at both the 1/2 and 3/4, not even...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 05-05-2017, 11:25 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 3,235
Posted By Tread
If you are going to dumb it down and say "today",...

If you are going to dumb it down and say "today", then yes we are going to debate that.

R9 - won from dead last
R10 - Turf
R11 - won from dead last
R12 - won from dead last
R13 - 4th of 9 at...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-11-2013, 05:02 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Does this apply to admins with dickish attitudes,...

Does this apply to admins with dickish attitudes, like you and CJ?
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 11:55 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
One last point, and then I'm done with this...

One last point, and then I'm done with this thread until Derby Day. Another reason it is clear to me that the connections did not care wholeheartedly about this race or his margin of victory is that...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 08:08 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
A wise position to take. By making no statement...

A wise position to take. By making no statement as to what you agree and don't agree with, you can come back later and pile on any incorrect statements without ever having to own up to your own...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
I never said you mentioned GC. But I implied...

I never said you mentioned GC. But I implied that if you are arguing that the final overall time of a race makes it "tough" or not (which is the original post you responded to) you are making an...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 06:42 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
CJ could you be more specific about the points...

CJ could you be more specific about the points I've made here that you disagree with?
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Never directly accused you of that, but there are...

Never directly accused you of that, but there are many people in this thread that have implied that because they feel his last race wasn't great, that he has no chance. This type of logic is doing...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Yes, because that would invalidate the sensible...

Yes, because that would invalidate the sensible points I've made in this thread.
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 06:30 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Considering he came out of the race injured, it's...

Considering he came out of the race injured, it's safe to say he was not able to run his race that day. If you can predict races that horses are going to be injured in, you are quite a handicapper.
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 06:29 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
And going back 15,20,30 years is a ridiculous way...

And going back 15,20,30 years is a ridiculous way to run analysis because the game is constantly evolving, not to mention a ridiculous way to structure a wager/measure ROI when you can only make one...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 05:51 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Compared to winning the Derby and leaving some...

Compared to winning the Derby and leaving some horse left to attempt it with? Not anywhere near as important.

Did they still win? Yes, they did, they did just enough to win the race and nothing...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 05:29 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
LOOOOL, so we can nitpick a narrow victory by...

LOOOOL, so we can nitpick a narrow victory by Verrazano, but we can't nitpick a much more narrow victory by Barbaro? Why not?

Did IHA run the fastest Beyer in the last round of Derby preps? ...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 04:44 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Neither is a fast final overall time, unless you...

Neither is a fast final overall time, unless you are trying to argue Governor Charlie should be one of the top 3 favorites in the Derby.
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 04:42 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Your characterization of some of these races is...

Your characterization of some of these races is laughable. Barbaro was a strong winner? Better go watch the replay. Giacamo is only "a bit of a reach" for the premise you are trying discuss? From...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 03:49 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Why would this race have mattered one single bit?...

Why would this race have mattered one single bit? He was already qualified for the Derby and these connections are not idiots, they know the long recent history of overcranked horses running huge...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 03:30 PM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
If this were the only race Verrazano ever ran,...

If this were the only race Verrazano ever ran, then you might possibly have a point. But given he has also been involved in a race where the pace was 45+ and 109+ and it was the best performance of...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-10-2013, 08:35 AM
Replies: 198
Views: 12,992
Posted By Tread
Which fractions were slow? Goldencents came home...

Which fractions were slow? Goldencents came home in 38.3. Verrazano came home in 36.5, into a 20mph headwind. Which fractions better project ability at 1 1/4, early ones or late ones?
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-09-2013, 08:49 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 4,009
Posted By Tread
Im not saying that at all, it would only need to...

Im not saying that at all, it would only need to have occurred in the stretch where he was really called upon for his best run to have an impact on his performance.

Conspiracy theory? Comon,...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-09-2013, 08:17 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 4,009
Posted By Tread
Difficult call because there has been so much...

Difficult call because there has been so much rain there the past decade. On a normal, dry day, I believe the CD surface is sandier, looser, and deeper compared to SA. but being sandy, when it gets...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-09-2013, 07:46 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 4,009
Posted By Tread
I'm not saying I don't like him because of where...

I'm not saying I don't like him because of where he prepped. I'm saying the public perception of the effort is over-inflated due to the speed bias of the track and the company of the race was...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-09-2013, 06:39 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 4,009
Posted By Tread
This argument makes as much sense as and uses the...

This argument makes as much sense as and uses the same logic as, O'Neil won last year so he's a good bet this year.
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 04-09-2013, 05:34 PM
Replies: 45
Views: 4,009
Posted By Tread
Goldencents can "handle" 9F only if the surface...

Goldencents can "handle" 9F only if the surface is extremely glib and does not contain any other (fully healthy) GSWs, but you only need to go one race back to see a case where he cannot even handle...
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