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Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-08-2022, 12:26 AM
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Views: 1,617
Posted By ROK
Hit and run?, twitter?, I have no idea what...

Hit and run?, twitter?, I have no idea what you're talking about.

You have posted anti-O'Brien stuff numerous times. I rarely post. Sorry, but that is how I see it. Maybe I am being unfair to...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-07-2022, 10:12 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,617
Posted By ROK
Aidan Patrick O'Brien is the greatest trainer...

Aidan Patrick O'Brien is the greatest trainer since Vincent O'Brien and if you can't understand this, your math skills are quite poor.
Forum: Selections 04-26-2019, 11:45 PM
Replies: 1,013
Views: 104,584
Posted By ROK
Margin means nothing if you do not have an edge...

Margin means nothing if you do not have an edge -- meaning that he must know something that the market does not. (as I know you know) Simply betting what appears to be overlays based on a margin...
Forum: Selections 04-26-2019, 10:59 PM
Replies: 1,013
Views: 104,584
Posted By ROK
No it is not. But that is not the key. The...

No it is not.

But that is not the key. The key is whether he has an edge or not.

I have these percentages after 172 races
Top pick -25%
2nd pick -31%
3rd pick -7%

It is doubtful that...
Forum: Selections 04-26-2019, 10:23 PM
Replies: 1,013
Views: 104,584
Posted By ROK
Betting his top 3 picks results in a loss.

Betting his top 3 picks results in a loss.
Forum: Selections 02-18-2019, 12:06 AM
Replies: 1,013
Views: 104,584
Posted By ROK
Dear Nitro, You wrote:" You and the other...

Dear Nitro,

You wrote:" You and the other skeptics never got it because although the profit margins varied when converting to US$, the bottom line was always the hit frequency."

This is...
Forum: Selections 12-05-2016, 03:55 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 3,315
Posted By ROK
Nitro, I will say it again. You post your...

Nitro,

I will say it again. You post your bet amounts 2 hrs after the race has run!!! Why do you do that??? I know why.

It was you who calculated your ROI by using the incorrect odds that...
Forum: Selections 12-04-2016, 08:24 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 3,315
Posted By ROK
You sound terrified...and you should be. Because...

You sound terrified...and you should be. Because you know where I'm heading next.

Let me ask you a very simple question: From now on, when posting your plays for Hong Kong, which odds display are...
Forum: Selections 12-04-2016, 02:58 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 3,315
Posted By ROK
Formula, This should be interesting. Unless...

Formula,

This should be interesting. Unless I am missing a payoff, it looks like a flat bet loss with and without the race that was not included, but a huge return by dutching(?)...hmmm. The shape...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-03-2016, 02:00 AM
Replies: 124
Views: 15,599
Posted By ROK
Ok, thanks...I asked that because on 11/30 in...

Ok, thanks...I asked that because on 11/30 in Race 5, #11 Pearl Furu was listed at 17-1 odds and paid 175.5...

Again, thanks...goodnight.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-03-2016, 01:24 AM
Replies: 124
Views: 15,599
Posted By ROK
Hi steveb, Just curious... You wrote:...

Hi steveb,

Just curious...

You wrote: "17/1 the return would be 180..."

Since we know that Hong Kong round their high odds, why wouldn't a 17-1 pay somewhere around 175?
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-03-2016, 12:31 AM
Replies: 124
Views: 15,599
Posted By ROK
"Nitro doesn't actually check the...

"Nitro doesn't actually check the payouts"...Exactly...he even occasionally shortchanges his inflated results by using only the rounded Hong Kong odds.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-02-2016, 10:11 PM
Replies: 124
Views: 15,599
Posted By ROK
Ahh (wipes sweat) No change to results... ...

Ahh (wipes sweat) No change to results...

Just simply left out listing R6....2.1--$4.2--1.1.

Sorry though.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-02-2016, 10:05 PM
Replies: 124
Views: 15,599
Posted By ROK
woops...Nitro reported hitting 5 of 11....My...

woops...Nitro reported hitting 5 of 11....My mistake...I will make the corrections and be back soon. (gulp)
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 12-02-2016, 09:36 PM
Replies: 124
Views: 15,599
Posted By ROK
11/27 Hong Kong Nitro's winners ...

11/27 Hong Kong

Nitro's winners

Hong Kong Odds--Twinspires payoffs--Twinspires odds

R4--2.9--$5.8--1.9
R9--18.5--$37--17.5
R10--11.4--$22.7--10.4
R11--8.4--$16.9--7.5
Forum: Selections 11-29-2016, 11:41 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 3,113
Posted By ROK
Dear Nitro, This is what I've been waiting...

Dear Nitro,

This is what I've been waiting for.

TwinSpires reported a payoff of $5.8 = 1.9 odds. So, 36*1.9+36=104.4.

NOT $140!!!

Sorry, but all of your results are WRONG!!! :-)
Forum: Selections 11-24-2016, 02:08 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,474
Posted By ROK
You're right, that's a problem. Though, in...

You're right, that's a problem. Though, in fairness, he could just be betting his live picks while his early picks are just theoretical plays. That wouldn't explain the ROI difference that he should...
Forum: Selections 11-24-2016, 09:39 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,474
Posted By ROK
I should have added ...in the larger analysis.

I should have added ...in the larger analysis.
Forum: Selections 11-24-2016, 09:36 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,474
Posted By ROK
And this also means that the profit and margin...

And this also means that the profit and margin being reported is incorrect.
Forum: Selections 11-23-2016, 12:13 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 5,676
Posted By ROK
Dear Nitro, As you know, both Formula and I...

Dear Nitro,

As you know, both Formula and I have praised your work. We are questioning how you have arrived at your ROI, not your methodology. There's no reason to have a fit. I have no...
Forum: Selections 11-22-2016, 07:50 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 5,676
Posted By ROK
Nitro, I believe that you won races 1,2,3...

Nitro,

I believe that you won races 1,2,3 and 8? What were the payoffs?

I'll be back in 2hrs. Thanks.
Forum: Selections 11-22-2016, 05:29 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 5,676
Posted By ROK
Nitro, What were your win payoffs on 11/16?

Nitro,

What were your win payoffs on 11/16?
Forum: Selections 11-22-2016, 04:19 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 5,676
Posted By ROK
Formula, Now we're both happy! Thanks :-)

Formula,

Now we're both happy! Thanks :-)
Forum: Selections 11-22-2016, 12:33 AM
Replies: 96
Views: 5,676
Posted By ROK
Alwaysonpoint36: Thanks! :-)

Alwaysonpoint36: Thanks! :-)
Forum: Selections 11-21-2016, 09:38 PM
Replies: 96
Views: 5,676
Posted By ROK
Formula, After a half-bottle of Nemiroff,...

Formula,

After a half-bottle of Nemiroff, I'm not happy having to do this:-) But, the Hong Kong odds were as you say 1.5 - 22 - 41. But it is NOT CORRECT to calculate 1.5*70+70=175...THAT IS...
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