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Forum: General Racing Discussion 02-06-2015, 04:29 PM
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Posted By Robert Goren
All you said is probably true, but that does not...

All you said is probably true, but that does not mean congress is going to legalise it anytime soon. It will take major shake up in congress to get done. The poker players have been trying to get a...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 02-06-2015, 02:03 PM
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Posted By Robert Goren
But laws need to change. Wishful think won't do...

But laws need to change. Wishful think won't do it. With current make up of congress, it ain't happening.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 02-05-2015, 11:51 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
There is a lot of money bet illegally on MLB. A...

There is a lot of money bet illegally on MLB. A friend who was a bookie said he took more action on MLB than on the NBA. But more on college hoops than the MLB. Not what I expected.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 01-14-2015, 08:48 PM
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Posted By Robert Goren
Boo ho, boo ho. What the matter, the horsemen are...

Boo ho, boo ho. What the matter, the horsemen are letting a form of gambling exist with them getting a cut. Somebody slipped somewhere.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-08-2014, 10:02 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
The real question is why it took them so long.

The real question is why it took them so long.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-08-2014, 09:09 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
1996

1996
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-07-2014, 05:42 PM
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Posted By Robert Goren
Amen

Amen
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-26-2014, 11:04 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
If I may ask, what kind of deal did they cut with...

If I may ask, what kind of deal did they cut with NJ horsemen? What % of each bet do the horsemen get?
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-22-2014, 10:44 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
No. because Judge Shipp's ruling the first time...

No. because Judge Shipp's ruling the first time was not all inclusive concerning the federal law. He only ruled on part of it. There is no way NJ or any other state can craft an end run around the...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-22-2014, 10:29 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
When you own an sports franchise, then you will...

When you own an sports franchise, then you will get to decide what will hurt your bottom line or not. It does not matter what you think if you are not an owner. Why are you having such a hard time...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-21-2014, 11:55 PM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
But they think they saw a damage to the sport. It...

But they think they saw a damage to the sport. It is not what actually happens, but what they perceive to have happen. But then we don't have access to the numbers they do, so we don't what happened...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-21-2014, 11:48 PM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
you are right with today salaries. But college...

you are right with today salaries. But college games are a different story. Too many kids with no future (in or out of sports) in important facets of the games. They literally have nothing to lose if...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-21-2014, 02:17 PM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
I think they can point to horse racing and say "...

I think they can point to horse racing and say " See, This is what happens to your sport if it becomes to closely identified with gambling". They think they need to keep a wall between them and...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-21-2014, 01:37 PM
Replies: 1,229
Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
More wishful thinking. It ain't happening. Even...

More wishful thinking. It ain't happening. Even if by some perverted reasoning NJ got a favorable ruling out the courts, Congress will pass a new law banning sports wagering. Banning sports wagering...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-15-2014, 10:00 AM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
I paid attention in arithmetic class. :)

I paid attention in arithmetic class. :)
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-15-2014, 08:27 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
Are trying tell me that trainers like very smart...

Are trying tell me that trainers like very smart and knowledgeable owners? Of coarse if an owner was really smart, he would not be an owner. Owning race horses will turn a large fortune into small...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-15-2014, 08:18 AM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
I know one thing, if it were not for the...

I know one thing, if it were not for the horsemen, the NJ bill would not have seen the light of day. It also mostly horsemen like you who keep posting reason the courts have to rule in favor of NJ....
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-14-2014, 08:48 AM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
If the sports leagues get a cut, there were...

If the sports leagues get a cut, there were little or nothing left for the horsemen.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-14-2014, 08:46 AM
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Posted By Robert Goren
Maybe you are right, but I am sure the horsemen...

Maybe you are right, but I am sure the horsemen here will point that there they are losing trainers each year and they are not being replaced. Maybe it isn't as bad as the yearly loss of bettors, but...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-14-2014, 12:48 AM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
Every trainer I ever knew considered the horse...

Every trainer I ever knew considered the horse theirs just as coach considers a team his. The owner is a necessary evil who is there to pay the bills and should not be involved in day to day...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-06-2014, 04:44 PM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
Are they still using them? What did they say...

Are they still using them? What did they say about them?
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-06-2014, 04:31 PM
Replies: 1,229
Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
You can move your horses to NY or where ever. You...

You can move your horses to NY or where ever. You might have to run against a few extra horses in a race. That would be a very good thing for the bettor. But for some reason I thought you knew that....
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-06-2014, 03:45 PM
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Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
Actually the horsemen are the reason they are in...

Actually the horsemen are the reason they are in trouble. The constant demand for higher takeout over the last 50 years has driven bettor after bettor away to the point where they need to get money...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-06-2014, 03:28 PM
Replies: 1,229
Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
I look at them and decide they were not for me. I...

I look at them and decide they were not for me. I have never met anyone who plays the "daily games". I would be interested if anyone here does. My gut feeling they are not up to the hype. The...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 11-05-2014, 10:57 AM
Replies: 1,229
Views: 197,269
Posted By Robert Goren
If nothing else, they believe that they need to...

If nothing else, they believe that they need to take a public stand against gambling on their product. They believe if their sport becomes attached to gambling in a real sense, their sport will...
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