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Forum: General Racing Discussion

08-29-2007, 08:38 PM

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Someone had a good day at Sar/Dmr

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Posted By PittsburghPhil

Someone had a good day at Sar/Dmr

I see winners of 9-1, 13-1, and 15-1, and lots of triple-digit exotics, all free:

Saratoga Wednesday (http://www.**********.com/pap-sar-082907.pdf)

Del Mar Wednesday...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-18-2007, 10:18 AM

Replies: 303

Why use speed figures at all?

Views: 20,233

Posted By PittsburghPhil

To say "Why use figures" is to say "why use final...

To say "Why use figures" is to say "why use final time?" Why bother timing the races at all? Speed figures are just adjusted final times, but not completely adjusted. Track variant is one of many...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-15-2007, 10:03 AM

Replies: 143

REBATES

Views: 9,076

Posted By PittsburghPhil

Those rebates are available to everyone on an...

Those rebates are available to everyone on an equal basis, and don't alter the fundamental nature of the product the way they do in a gambling pool.

Pinnacle's rebate setup, a flat rate for...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-15-2007, 09:20 AM

Replies: 143

REBATES

Views: 9,076

Posted By PittsburghPhil

When we were talking about unffair competition...

When we were talking about unffair competition and price discrimination, the rebates were supposedly NOT the bettor's money, but "like a bonus or reward." That's because if it's a KICKBACK it's...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-15-2007, 09:17 AM

Replies: 143

REBATES

Views: 9,076

Posted By PittsburghPhil

I doubt anything other than a full IRS audit...

I doubt anything other than a full IRS audit would break their denial. They remind me of the teens who post videos of themselves committing crimes to Youtube and wonder why they got caught.

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-15-2007, 09:08 AM

Replies: 143

REBATES

Views: 9,076

Posted By PittsburghPhil

It's not just the IRS, but city and state tax...

It's not just the IRS, but city and state tax agencies as well. We're talking about a LOT of money here that's going unreported, and as we know, tax evasion happens to be a felony.

How will they...

Forum: Handicapping Software

08-13-2007, 04:06 PM

Replies: 43

Legal Selling of a Sheet

Views: 5,040

Posted By PittsburghPhil

The PAP sheets put the morning line on the sheet...

The PAP sheets put the morning line on the sheet (compared to a value line) and their publisher doesn't seem worried.

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-13-2007, 04:04 PM

Replies: 105

attn toteboard charters/handicappers

Views: 18,682

Posted By PittsburghPhil

Didn't Mark Cramer do something on that?

Didn't Mark Cramer do something on that?

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-13-2007, 04:00 PM

Replies: 143

REBATES

Views: 9,076

Posted By PittsburghPhil

Some of the rebates are done on the down-low and...

Some of the rebates are done on the down-low and are not generally available, while others require a certain level of action which in turn is made more possible by the rebate itself.

Whether or...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-13-2007, 07:29 AM

Replies: 143

REBATES

Views: 9,076

Posted By PittsburghPhil

Be careful what you wish for! If rebates...

Be careful what you wish for!

If rebates are a bonus or a reward, then you can't use gambling losses to offset them the way you could if they were parimuteul payoffs. That means if you are...

Forum: General Handicapping Discussion

08-13-2007, 07:21 AM

Replies: 5

Delaware park

Views: 1,057

Posted By PittsburghPhil

When most of the shippers are coming from Pen,...

When most of the shippers are coming from Pen, Pha, Pim, Lrl, Cnl, and CT, is that shocking?

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