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Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 09:48 PM

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Churchill Downs raising takeout

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Posted By Cannon shell

Remember a conversation we had a few years ago...

Remember a conversation we had a few years ago about the direction of the business and how convinced I was that people were being distracted from what is really going on? I was just pessimistic then....

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 09:44 PM

Replies: 426

Churchill Downs raising takeout

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Posted By Cannon shell

Nothing. Bet something else. I'm not saying that...

Nothing. Bet something else. I'm not saying that I'd support them. Just making the point that they don't care either way. You bet their product, they make money. You dont they have more ammo to bring...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 09:37 PM

Replies: 426

Churchill Downs raising takeout

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Posted By Cannon shell

Id say that Tampa has plateaued. Dont know how...

Id say that Tampa has plateaued. Dont know how much more growth they have, not to mention that Mrs Thayer is the only racing person in her family. When she passes (She is in her early 70's) the track...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 09:27 PM

Replies: 426

Churchill Downs raising takeout

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Posted By Cannon shell

True but they are an isolated case that has...

True but they are an isolated case that has benefited greatly from the instant racing and being privately owned by racing people.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 08:46 PM

Replies: 426

Churchill Downs raising takeout

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Posted By Cannon shell

Honestly there really isnt anything anyone can...

Honestly there really isnt anything anyone can do.

They do nothing without a long term plan which is why they are a huge success on wall street. CHDN was trading at around $40 a share a few years...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 08:21 PM

Replies: 426

Churchill Downs raising takeout

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Posted By Cannon shell

I used last meet raced.

I used last meet raced.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 07:57 PM

Replies: 426

Churchill Downs raising takeout

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Posted By Cannon shell

In 2002 MSW at CD was $40300 ...

In 2002 MSW at CD was $40300
http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbPDFChartPlus.cfm?BORP=P&STYLE=EQB&DAY=D&tid=CD&dt=06/01/2002&ctry=USA&race=6

In Fall 2013 MSW at CD was $41000...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 12:18 PM

Replies: 13

Want the USADA involved in racing?

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Posted By Cannon shell

Duke and Duke have a dollar bet seeing if they...

Duke and Duke have a dollar bet seeing if they can bring the sport back into their fold

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 12:16 PM

Replies: 13

Want the USADA involved in racing?

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Posted By Cannon shell

Well stop complaining so much if it isn't a big...

Well stop complaining so much if it isn't a big deal to you?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 12:14 PM

Replies: 13

Want the USADA involved in racing?

Views: 848

Posted By Cannon shell

Haven't you figured out how this works yet? Do...

Haven't you figured out how this works yet? Do you think it is a mistake that funding wasn't included in the publicly released drafts of the bill?
This is a political campaign. Get the natives...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 11:41 AM

Replies: 13

Want the USADA involved in racing?

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Posted By Cannon shell

You may not want it but it's coming. Where did...

You may not want it but it's coming. Where did you think the money was coming from? Potentially the most damaging piece of legislation ever proposed depending on how big of a cut they want. Everyone...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-10-2014, 11:26 AM

Replies: 24

Confessions of a Racing Secretary

Views: 2,730

Posted By Cannon shell

You are drinking the Kool aid. They dont want to...

You are drinking the Kool aid. They dont want to run any races. Sure the VA horsemen should sign a contract that basically kills their breeding program and is designed for NY and KY trainers

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-09-2014, 10:36 PM

Replies: 13

Want the USADA involved in racing?

Views: 848

Posted By Cannon shell

Want the USADA involved in racing?

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/racinghub/archive/2014/04/09/ned-bonnie-why-i-m-joining-whoa.aspx

Willing to pay for it?

"Although, not proposed in the current draft of his Bill, it has been...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-09-2014, 04:50 PM

Replies: 24

Confessions of a Racing Secretary

Views: 2,730

Posted By Cannon shell

Yeah the horsemen are doing a number on Colonial...

Yeah the horsemen are doing a number on Colonial Downs. A 6 day meet is exactly what you want to have after you have spend years raising VA breds to race at least part of the year in VA.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-09-2014, 04:48 PM

Replies: 24

Confessions of a Racing Secretary

Views: 2,730

Posted By Cannon shell

Sal is a good guy in an impossible spot.

Sal is a good guy in an impossible spot.

Forum: General Racing Discussion

04-02-2014, 05:57 PM

Replies: 2

Classifying System- New and Improved

Views: 1,147

Posted By Cannon shell

I'm impressed. How would the silent auction work?

I'm impressed. How would the silent auction work?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-30-2014, 05:43 PM

Replies: 63

A Question for the Horsemen here.

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Posted By Cannon shell

In order to really answer the question properly...

In order to really answer the question properly you have to specify what circuit you are talking about as many of the issues are track or circuit/region specific.

In general most horsemen have...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-16-2014, 05:32 PM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

The big tracks are just as bad if not worse in...

The big tracks are just as bad if not worse in terms of writing races for particular trainers/owners/horses.

A racing secretaries job isnt to make people happy, it is to make competitive,...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-16-2014, 05:05 PM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

NYRA is funded by a casino So Cal has already...

NYRA is funded by a casino
So Cal has already lost a major track
KY is a major player for about 5 months, maybe

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-16-2014, 01:02 PM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

They arent. Purses in places like MNR are 95%...

They arent.
Purses in places like MNR are 95% funded by slots. In PA it is probably 90%.

Tracks w/casinos are only racing because they have to.

There was a significant item in the news the...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-16-2014, 12:17 PM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

Let me clue you in to reality. You may not like...

Let me clue you in to reality. You may not like it. You may not agree. However it is without a doubt reality. Many of the people in positions of power in racing have zero interest in altering...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-16-2014, 09:58 AM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

Who do the trainers train for?

Who do the trainers train for?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-15-2014, 06:55 PM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

Why are they scared of those trainers?

Why are they scared of those trainers?

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-15-2014, 06:52 PM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

Right. So ask yourself why tracks/racing...

Right. So ask yourself why tracks/racing secretarys (dont forget that few if any operate with impunity, they answer to someone) dont seem to act in their best interests by carding short field races...

Forum: General Racing Discussion

03-15-2014, 06:41 PM

Replies: 78

Would a Classifying System Work for Thoroughbreds?

Views: 5,984

Posted By Cannon shell

You just said "I have been doing this long enough...

You just said "I have been doing this long enough that I think it can be done"

Shooting down ideas that wont work isnt maintaining the status quo, it is just eliminating ideas that wont work.
I...

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