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Forum: General Racing Discussion 10-27-2022, 06:39 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,512
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
It's not bogus math insofar as it's bogus logic. ...

It's not bogus math insofar as it's bogus logic. We can all play it.

Betting $0.50 in the pick 4 is better than betting $2 in the WPS pool because you're only losing 12 cents as opposed to 32...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 10-27-2022, 02:28 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,512
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
You started with a false premise and I didn't...

You started with a false premise and I didn't keep reading. Takeout is not spread evenly against betting options in the WPS pool, it is applied to the pool in total before betting options are...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 10-25-2022, 01:16 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,512
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
You're equating apples to oranges as a rationale,...

You're equating apples to oranges as a rationale, try to focus




Paying a higher rate on a single bet is never going to be better for the bettor, particularly when factoring in that the pool...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 10-25-2022, 12:19 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,512
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
Forum: General Racing Discussion 10-24-2022, 09:44 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,512
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
24% takeout remains prohibitive. It's one thing...

24% takeout remains prohibitive. It's one thing if you're in the WPS pool and you know 2:1 is going to pay 2:1 but you're betting blind into a high takeout pool
Forum: General Racing Discussion 10-04-2022, 10:23 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 855
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Seems like it fit the bill that turf handicappers...

Seems like it fit the bill that turf handicappers look for in a turf sprint -

- runs turf sprints
- runs on a consistent basis
- seems it's in the same ballpark of class
- kept it around a...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-16-2022, 12:46 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,710
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
QH is buyer beware. I suggest sticking to the...

QH is buyer beware. I suggest sticking to the win pool
Forum: General Racing Discussion 09-16-2022, 12:43 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,141
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Hollywood, Calder, Arlington.......Ellis

Hollywood, Calder, Arlington.......Ellis
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-16-2022, 12:59 PM
Replies: 47
Views: 2,962
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
I've always thought that the solution was to...

I've always thought that the solution was to offer different pools for on track vs simulcast/adw/crw

Either way, you'll save yourself a lot of headaches by not watching the races to avoid seeing...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 08-13-2022, 11:56 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 6,027
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Or just maintain it like AP did

Or just maintain it like AP did
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-24-2022, 06:05 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,341
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
It used to be AP. Now it's Laurel imo

It used to be AP. Now it's Laurel imo
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-18-2022, 03:13 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 781
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Every bar and restaurant in Stickney, Cicero,...

Every bar and restaurant in Stickney, Cicero, Berwyn, etc. over there has slot machines. There's gaming demand in the area, and the West/Southwest side of Chicago doesn't offer any gaming.

As far...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-17-2022, 10:00 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 781
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
It takes two to tango and the horsemen aren't...

It takes two to tango and the horsemen aren't innocent in why AP sits empty.

Either way, Mr. D. was a veteran that fought at the Bulge and had donated over $100M to the U. of Chicago for medical...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 05-27-2022, 06:47 PM
Replies: 148
Views: 12,147
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Closing tracks means those horses consolidate...

Closing tracks means those horses consolidate into other circuits until they no longer have value in that circuit. It doesn’t solve anything because each circuit can only handle a certain amount of...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-18-2022, 12:04 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 3,298
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Very simple track to handicap - class, distance,...

Very simple track to handicap - class, distance, and surface condition. No reason to even look at pace, speed figures, or track variants
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-05-2022, 11:41 AM
Replies: 85
Views: 5,819
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
lol I think they’re successful because they don’t...

lol I think they’re successful because they don’t need subject matter consultants

As for the subject matter of this thread, there’s no action that can prevent this that won’t have an equal and...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-27-2022, 10:29 PM
Replies: 61
Views: 6,027
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
You guys are expecting CDI to give a favor to...

You guys are expecting CDI to give a favor to Hawthorne? The same CDI that wouldn’t allow KD points to be granted for the Illinois Derby?
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-25-2022, 12:16 AM
Replies: 1
Views: 450
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Sad story where a graded stakes winner finds its...

Sad story where a graded stakes winner finds its way running for a $4k tag in Puerto Rico at 9 years old
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-20-2022, 02:53 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 2,128
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
These are stories that you can repeat over and...

These are stories that you can repeat over and over again down the class ladder. Stop betting these tracks if you don’t want this to exist
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-16-2022, 09:43 PM
Replies: 97
Views: 8,182
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Speaking of, can you define optimal takeout yet...

Speaking of, can you define optimal takeout yet and how it translates to the figures you would like to see takeout set at?
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-16-2022, 06:06 PM
Replies: 97
Views: 8,182
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
The Canterbury debacle would be enough for most...

The Canterbury debacle would be enough for most people to drop this foolishness, but I’ll give you credit for doubling down on your attempt to kill the game
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-16-2022, 11:41 AM
Replies: 61
Views: 6,027
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Want to take bets on how many years before some...

Want to take bets on how many years before some bourbon distiller renames the race?
Forum: General Racing Discussion 02-28-2022, 11:45 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,878
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
There is no room to do anything at Hawthorne so...

There is no room to do anything at Hawthorne so long as they want to keep the dirt at 1M for the harness meet

I don’t speak for the Carey family but I would imagine that if they were to add a...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 02-27-2022, 06:34 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,878
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
The purpose of the BC is to promote breeding, not...

The purpose of the BC is to promote breeding, not find the best weather. I would expect to see it ignore California until it can handle its own problems and promote breeding in Kentucky, Florida,...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 02-25-2022, 06:01 PM
Replies: 110
Views: 10,698
Posted By The_Turf_Monster
Just imagine if SA wouldn’t keep both of its...

Just imagine if SA wouldn’t keep both of its courses rock hard to favor early speed to keep some of its trainers happy
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