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Forum: Handicapper's Corner 10-20-2014, 06:13 PM
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Posted By Rook
The interest (obsession) in racing came first. ...

The interest (obsession) in racing came first. Handicapping was certainly the fuel that drove me to learn about databases and stats.

If I was to limit myself to one comment I would say the most...
Forum: Handicapper's Corner 10-20-2014, 06:00 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 4,699
Posted By Rook
Nope, I have always been a Canadian.

Nope, I have always been a Canadian.
Forum: Handicapper's Corner 10-20-2014, 10:16 AM
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Posted By Rook
Hi lansdale, Your memory that many years ago I...

Hi lansdale,
Your memory that many years ago I wrote about seasonally streaky betting is correct.

In 2005, I only had one year's experience betting in the winter so I didn't have a clear idea...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-16-2013, 10:28 AM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Yes, they would finally being doing the job they...

Yes, they would finally being doing the job they were designed to do: revealing which tracks were the most horseplayer friendly and which ones were easiest for a bettor to come out ahead at the end...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 08:36 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
If I have to bet a few grand per race, I would...

If I have to bet a few grand per race, I would still vastly prefer places like CT and DED. Obviously, you have to be careful not to bet those few grand on a longshot. The key is to spread the bets...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 05:12 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Wrong. Unlike yourself I am not an employee or...

Wrong. Unlike yourself I am not an employee or an agent. I am a free man.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 05:11 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
I deal with three ADWs and I am very happy with...

I deal with three ADWs and I am very happy with all of them. They give me the best rate that they can. Unfortunately do to high NYRA host fees, the rebate that they can afford to offer for NYRA...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 04:57 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
I would prefer takeout reductions as well but a...

I would prefer takeout reductions as well but a rebate can be acquired today. A takeout reduction can take years multiplied by dozens of states.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 04:51 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Jeff, I think it should be one of HANA's major...

Jeff, I think it should be one of HANA's major crusades to help players get their highest possible rebate. It would help so many stay in the game and in some cases would be truly life changing.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 04:47 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Nope I am not an ADW person. I have never made...

Nope I am not an ADW person. I have never made a dime referral off of anybody. I can however give lots of advice to those who want to know since I have been getting rebates for 9 years.

My...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 04:36 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
It's not complicated and it's not widely known...

It's not complicated and it's not widely known either. The concept of host fees needs to be discussed much more widely because it has a profound impact on a player's bottom line.

My opinion is...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 04:15 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
My quotes on the host fees are not misguided. ...

My quotes on the host fees are not misguided. They are a fact. I am informing people on this board instead of trying to mislead them.

Yeah, my agenda is crystal clear. I am a horseplayer and I...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 03:35 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Sure, and luckily for NYRA, the vast majority of...

Sure, and luckily for NYRA, the vast majority of horseplayers have no idea what a host fee is, never mind the fact that NYRA charges far more than other tracks. I am happy to give them a bit of an...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 03:01 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
As I stated earlier, rebates vary from player to...

As I stated earlier, rebates vary from player to player but the one constant is host fees. People playing with a certain ADW might get different rebates but the one thing that is sure is that NYRA is...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2013, 11:21 AM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
I'll give a little background on why I am so...

I'll give a little background on why I am so intense on this issue:
I am the one of the original guys who was there when HANA was being formed in the War Room. My contribution was the the HANA...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-07-2013, 11:59 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Yes, I have absolutely built my play around low...

Yes, I have absolutely built my play around low effective takeout tracks. Rebates are the only way to get low takeout so those are the best places to play. NYRA is the worst example of this so I...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-07-2013, 11:27 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
If they are not large players, then they don't...

If they are not large players, then they don't have to stress about the size of their bets killing their prices. There are times they will get short changed but then again due to the smaller size of...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-07-2013, 11:03 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Due to the sky high effective takeout, it is a...

Due to the sky high effective takeout, it is a mathematical fact that it doesn't work for horseplayers as a whole. I'll have to take your word for it that you have bet the many millions of dollars...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-07-2013, 08:37 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
If you get more entertainment out of NYRA than...

If you get more entertainment out of NYRA than the other tracks then you and I are very different horseplayers. I get entertainment only out of the tracks where I win.


What would you like me...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-07-2013, 07:00 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Too bad it's hardest to find good value at NYRA...

Too bad it's hardest to find good value at NYRA compared to the better priced tracks. If everyone on PA submitted their wagering histories, basic math would reveal which tracks we should stay away...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-07-2013, 04:59 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Too bad NYRA has been gouging you all winter. ...

Too bad NYRA has been gouging you all winter. You could have been able to afford to bet a lot more there.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-07-2013, 11:42 AM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
It doesn't matter about the wager type because it...

It doesn't matter about the wager type because it is the same result. NYRA charges far more for their host fee than most other tracks.

When I talk about effective takeout, this is an example of...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-06-2013, 10:21 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
Sure, there are a handful of tracks I have not...

Sure, there are a handful of tracks I have not enjoyed playing over the years even though I get a great effective takeout. Those tracks include ELP, FMT, SRP, ALB and ARP.

I can't blame those...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-06-2013, 09:38 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
That's the way it works as long as people keep...

That's the way it works as long as people keep putting up with crap like NYRA. It doesn't have to be that way. A track like Delta worked hard at increasing handle by beating NYRA's rates by more...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-06-2013, 08:57 PM
Replies: 222
Views: 14,925
Posted By Rook
You make a good point about Tampa. They have a...

You make a good point about Tampa. They have a way better reputation than they deserve. Their effective takeout rate is only a half point better than NYRA's, so that puts them right near the bottom...
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