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Forum: General Racing Discussion Yesterday, 07:03 PM
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Posted By dilanesp
My point is saying "wow Justify never lost" is...

My point is saying "wow Justify never lost" is absolutely the wrong way to look at this. The correct way to look at this is "wow, Justify's connections ducked any situation where he might lose".
Forum: General Racing Discussion Yesterday, 07:00 PM
Replies: 279
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Posted By dilanesp
I asked a question Vic. I didn't accuse you of...

I asked a question Vic. I didn't accuse you of anything. I asked a question about whether you think 6 restricted races and retire for breeding money is good for the sport. I don't think it's an...
Forum: General Racing Discussion Yesterday, 01:40 PM
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Posted By dilanesp
The way you stay undefeated is by not running...

The way you stay undefeated is by not running against anyone.

I will take Citation's record, with his losses, over Justify's any day of the week.
Forum: General Racing Discussion Yesterday, 12:06 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
Winstar does not need the money. And more...

Winstar does not need the money.

And more importantly, is this your vision of a healthy sport? Where the breeding industry controls everything and good horses run 6 times and then retire untested?
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-17-2018, 02:55 AM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
Seattle Slew had 2 convincing victories over the...

Seattle Slew had 2 convincing victories over the horse who won the award. They weren't close. Voting for a proven inferior was indefensible
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-17-2018, 12:08 AM
Replies: 279
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Posted By dilanesp
And then got screwed as a 4 year old when he...

And then got screwed as a 4 year old when he convincingly beat Affirned twice.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 06:56 PM
Replies: 279
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Posted By dilanesp
Vic, the Hills and the Taylors, upper middle...

Vic, the Hills and the Taylors, upper middle class people, raced their stallion, one of the most valuable in history, as a 4 year old after winning the TC while undefeated and with a far better...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 03:02 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/Weekend_Tak...

https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/Weekend_Takeaways_Audible_s_loss_also_a_blow_to_Justify_123#
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 02:06 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
I would be fine with that. The problem is in...

I would be fine with that.

The problem is in saying a cheap claimer's life is worthless whereas a strategic retirement of a 3 year old with the same injury by owners who are too chicken to risk a...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 12:48 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
They can do whatever they want. But racing...

They can do whatever they want.

But racing should punish parasitic behavior, not reward it.

And also, there's only one standard for whether a horse is safe to run. If Justify's injury is...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 12:45 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
If Justify were coming back at 4, he could of...

If Justify were coming back at 4, he could of course win HOTY at 4.

The retirement for reasons that harm the sport (greed and the parasites who breed elite horses) basically disqualifies him from...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 12:42 PM
Replies: 11
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Posted By dilanesp
And you wonder why more tracks don't close. ...

And you wonder why more tracks don't close.

Here's one of the most popular tracks in the country, running about a month long meaning, and realizing revenue of just $5.6 million. (If you want a...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 03:31 AM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
Key to the Mint? Favorite Trick didn't...

Key to the Mint?

Favorite Trick didn't deserve it either.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-16-2018, 03:30 AM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
My standard for the injury is "would it have...

My standard for the injury is "would it have forced the retirement of a cheap claimer?". The answer to that is obviously "no", so Justify's injury should be considered a contrivance for HOTY voting.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-15-2018, 11:18 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
If the older division was so weak Justify's...

If the older division was so weak Justify's connections didn't need to duck it.

They ducked it because they are a bunch of parasitic chickens who wanted to protect their overrated colt's phony...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-15-2018, 02:13 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 756
Posted By dilanesp
I agree with all of this. I do think it is...

I agree with all of this.

I do think it is possible to believe this and also believe he over-presses with certain horses
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-14-2018, 05:03 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
Cat Thief and Arcangues would like a word with...

Cat Thief and Arcangues would like a word with you.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-14-2018, 05:01 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
1 1/4 mles is the most important distance,...

1 1/4 mles is the most important distance, Spalding.

And yes, just because they wear fancy hats at the Derby doesn't mean we forget that it is a restricted race.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-13-2018, 07:25 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
Accelerate by far. Justify never ran in an...

Accelerate by far. Justify never ran in an unrestricted race and ran speed figures several lengths slower.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-13-2018, 12:27 AM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
I agree, if HOTY is about popularity, Justify...

I agree, if HOTY is about popularity, Justify wins.

The problem is a lot of us think it is about achievement and winning the races that draw the fastest horses.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-12-2018, 07:09 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
If your figures gave Justify big numbers I can't...

If your figures gave Justify big numbers I can't argue that obviously. I do know that Justify's Beyers for the TC were pretty ordinary. Put Accelerate in the Preakness and he wins by a distance.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-12-2018, 04:52 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
The actual competition kept on losing to...

The actual competition kept on losing to Accelerate. Whereas in those years you mentioned they took turns beating each other and left it open for the 3 year old.

Accelerate beat stakes winners. He...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-12-2018, 02:31 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
A horse with Accelerate's record would have won...

A horse with Accelerate's record would have won those years.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-12-2018, 01:23 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
Question The problem with that argument is we don't treat...

The problem with that argument is we don't treat the 3 year old classics as more important than the handicaps and the BC Classic unless a horse wins all 3, and then, suddenly, we treat them as the...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 12-12-2018, 12:35 PM
Replies: 279
Views: 12,536
Posted By dilanesp
I don't think that's the main issue. The...

I don't think that's the main issue.

The main issue is Accelerate had a classic HOTY season, winning a bunch of major stakes at 1 1/4 miles including the BC Classic. Justify was a 6 race 5 month...
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