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Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 11:17 PM
Replies: 153
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Posted By Cangamble
Based on what we've seen at Betfair, I think my...

Based on what we've seen at Betfair, I think my assumptions are on the conservative side.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 11:15 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 9,350
Posted By Cangamble
It takes the whole industry to do it, or at least...

It takes the whole industry to do it, or at least about 5 or 6 major tracks to do it.
And I never said it would be done. The industry is far too dysfunctional to erase their mindsets and move into...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 11:11 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 9,350
Posted By Cangamble
I think you are having a hard time grasping the...

I think you are having a hard time grasping the fact that if 1 billion is bet during a specific period at a 20% takeout, most likely 2.5 to 3 billion would be bet if takeout was 10%.

10% of 2.5...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 11:04 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 9,350
Posted By Cangamble
Bookies always have the bet on credit angle going...

Bookies always have the bet on credit angle going for them. When people bring hard cash to the track, and sports betting is there, it is inevitable that sports betting will cannibalize the horse...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 11:02 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 9,350
Posted By Cangamble
And I'm talking about gambling and the power of...

And I'm talking about gambling and the power of lower takeouts/bigger rebates.
It doesn't matter where the gambler is betting. Lower takeouts means the player will last longer and play more races.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 10:58 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 9,350
Posted By Cangamble
Just plain wrong. Betfair has track after track...

Just plain wrong.
Betfair has track after track after track going all day. Their low house edge allows players to get a huge bang for their bucks, and it gives them the illusion that they aren't...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 10:37 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 9,350
Posted By Cangamble
If takeouts were reduced to 10%, I wouldn't be...

If takeouts were reduced to 10%, I wouldn't be surprised if handle triples.
Again, lower takeouts equals more handle, it also means more people will last longer and will wind up involving more...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-20-2009, 10:22 PM
Replies: 153
Views: 9,350
Posted By Cangamble
Actually the takeout on football is much less...

Actually the takeout on football is much less than 10%. Two people match $100 bets, one takes the fave, the other the dog, $200 is bet and only $10 goes to the house.
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 07-20-2009, 10:54 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,061
Posted By Cangamble
Woodbine has lowered their triactor takeout from...

Woodbine has lowered their triactor takeout from 28.3%, but it is still brutal at 27%.
California decided not to entertain an extra takeout increase.
More ADWs now have more content since HANA...
Forum: Off Topic - General 07-19-2009, 10:01 AM
Replies: 98
Views: 3,575
Posted By Cangamble
It appears that Islam has lowered the bar again

http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2009/07/iranians-rape-virgin-girls-before.html
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 07-18-2009, 12:21 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 2,047
Posted By Cangamble
I got one by them once: Abolish It. ...

I got one by them once:

Abolish It.

Unfortunately, the horse ran to her name.
Forum: Advance Deposit Wagering (ADW) 07-18-2009, 06:49 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,961
Posted By Cangamble
Don't complain, most of the rest of the industry...

Don't complain, most of the rest of the industry is stuck in 1956.
Forum: Off Topic - General 07-17-2009, 07:59 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,994
Posted By Cangamble
My knees are getting warn out too, begging the...

My knees are getting warn out too, begging the industry to drop takeout.

Best wishes to CJ's dad.
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 07-17-2009, 07:43 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,881
Posted By Cangamble
I felt guilty for underbetting the race going in....

I felt guilty for underbetting the race going in. But I really didn't like the race.
I used my filly rule. Throw out fillies who run 1,2 in their last race in filly races.
I did throw the 4 in...
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 07-17-2009, 07:36 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,881
Posted By Cangamble
Finally hit a Pool Party race. I had a $7...

Finally hit a Pool Party race. I had a $7 double. I bet a $6 box 5-6, a $1 tribox 1-3-5-6, and a $1 tri key 5 with 1,3,4,6. I also bet a $3 ex box 1-5.

I'm now officially even and ahead on...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 07-17-2009, 10:40 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 644
Posted By Cangamble
I've seen that happen before. Usually when a...

I've seen that happen before. Usually when a heavy chalk wins the first leg. Players may lay off the exact horses they used in the next pick 3 because they are live in the Win 4.

I just did the...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-16-2009, 09:18 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,239
Posted By Cangamble
That should read, some jockeys make horses run...

That should read, some jockeys make horses run faster than other jockeys do.
Forum: Advance Deposit Wagering (ADW) 07-16-2009, 09:16 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,961
Posted By Cangamble
I see that now. Earlier in the day when I made...

I see that now. Earlier in the day when I made that comment that wasn't the case. Maybe they were slow with the Niagara region.

I'll make sure I barely meet their limits. You can only play...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-16-2009, 07:20 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,239
Posted By Cangamble
That article should really say that some jockeys...

That article should really say that some jockeys make horses run faster than other horses.
How many times do horses that unseat their rider at the start outrun the field?
Lots and lots.
You tell...
Forum: Advance Deposit Wagering (ADW) 07-16-2009, 03:32 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 2,961
Posted By Cangamble
They already had free video and free replay. ...

They already had free video and free replay. They are now taking it away from those who don't bet enough. Or the many who have an HPI account but bet where they are respected as a customer.
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 07-15-2009, 08:30 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 1,881
Posted By Cangamble
Here is the Thorograph info for the race: ...

Here is the Thorograph info for the race:
http://www.thorograph.com/phorum/read.php?1,53391,53393#msg-53393
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-15-2009, 06:45 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 1,136
Posted By Cangamble
I'd rather go with the reason stated by one of...

I'd rather go with the reason stated by one of the radio show analysts. Horses rely on good footing when they escape predators in the wild, if their footing is uncomfortable, they likely will not...
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 07-15-2009, 06:16 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 7,260
Posted By Cangamble
I'll tell you another thing that irks me big...

I'll tell you another thing that irks me big time, when you see an owner win a big stake race at a price and they say "they never bet."

I believe them, but when they say it, it makes me feel like...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-15-2009, 06:08 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 884
Posted By Cangamble
A $15 to $20 admission into the racetrack was...

A $15 to $20 admission into the racetrack was charged.
***********************
They put Churchill Downs to shame on that one.
Forum: Horseplayers Association of North America (H.A.N.A.) 07-15-2009, 05:55 PM
Replies: 118
Views: 7,260
Posted By Cangamble
You did good, but I tried to top you.

You did good, but I tried to top you.
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