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Forum: General Handicapping Discussion Yesterday, 12:15 PM
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Posted By classhandicapper
I'd probably focus on owners off the claim and...

I'd probably focus on owners off the claim and with first time starters and other very lightly raced horses.
Forum: General Racing Discussion Yesterday, 09:55 AM
Replies: 152
Views: 10,256
Posted By classhandicapper
Honestly, I think the chances this was...

Honestly, I think the chances this was intentional are pretty close to zero.

If you are Bob Baffert and you are trying to cheat, you don't use something you know they will test for and it's...
Forum: **TRIPLE CROWN TRAIL** 07-07-2020, 07:35 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 615
Posted By classhandicapper
It's somewhere between difficult and impossible...

It's somewhere between difficult and impossible for me to evaluate the quality of these fields just by watching the races (though I've heard Paul Cornman could do that), but he looks like a serious...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-07-2020, 04:53 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 2,850
Posted By classhandicapper
Good one.

Good one.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-07-2020, 04:50 PM
Replies: 152
Views: 10,256
Posted By classhandicapper
Baffert's lawyer responded to the NY Times...

Baffert's lawyer responded to the NY Times article and suggested the amount was very low and did not impact performance. Of course, that's his lawyer saying that.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-07-2020, 04:31 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Ah, the late 90s. The era before Beyer figures...

Ah, the late 90s. The era before Beyer figures for Grade 1 horses magically started shrinking and ultimately leveled off about 6 or more points lower all while Thorograph was saying horses were...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-07-2020, 11:08 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
:lol: You just love the horse and couldn't...

:lol:

You just love the horse and couldn't handle even the slightest criticism or this wouldn't even be a thread. Be happy. He whooped a field he was supposed to whoop.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-07-2020, 10:09 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
In March of 2019 Mucho Gusto was running figures...

In March of 2019 Mucho Gusto was running figures in the high 80s. He topped out at 90. He broke through to 95 in June. Got to 100 and 101 in the Haskell and Travers. Then he ran a 107 at GP in the...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-07-2020, 09:53 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Spalding, It's unlikely we are going to...

Spalding,

It's unlikely we are going to agree on every bias, trip, field quality, condition and distance impact etc... but some things are objective and obvious.

Objectively, you can use...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-07-2020, 09:23 AM
Replies: 152
Views: 10,256
Posted By classhandicapper
The punishment will be interesting. If the...

The punishment will be interesting.

If the amount was actually way too small to impact performance then it is possible the horse won't be disqualified and Baffert will only get a slap on the...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-06-2020, 02:31 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Spalding, I'm not going to go through the...

Spalding,

I'm not going to go through the record of each of those horses.

Suffice to say, they are all running better Beyer figures now than they were at around the same Tacitus broke out in...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-06-2020, 09:43 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Hopefully this will be my last post on this...

Hopefully this will be my last post on this subject, but it deserves further comment if you are speed figure inclined.

Earlier in the thread I noted that CJ has Tacitus running around 7 points...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-06-2020, 09:06 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Forget what the trolls on Twitter say and stick...

Forget what the trolls on Twitter say and stick to serious discussion.

IMO, you are still missing or refusing to acknowledge the point I have been making.

It's not that he wouldn't have won...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-06-2020, 08:47 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Horses like Code of Honor and Maximum Security...

Horses like Code of Honor and Maximum Security have move forward much more than he has. To that list I'd add Vekoma, Improbable, By My Standards and Mucho Gusto. They've all moved forward more.
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Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-05-2020, 01:05 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
I don't think even the skeptics took it that far...

I don't think even the skeptics took it that far (at least among serious players). The issue has always been that he was impressive in the Wood and made some fans (myself among them).

Then the...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-05-2020, 09:31 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
You are a very smart guy. You know this race was...

You are a very smart guy. You know this race was nowhere near the quality of the Oaklawn race even with the same class label.

The 100 Beyer figure makes some sense and fits with the rest of the...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 07-05-2020, 09:01 AM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,533
Posted By classhandicapper
104 Beyer. That seems a little slow to...

104 Beyer.

That seems a little slow to me, but it fit in with the rest of the day. So unless you think the track changed speeds a little, for a premier Grade 1 race loaded with Grade 1...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-04-2020, 07:08 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
The time looked fairly quick, but we'll have to...

The time looked fairly quick, but we'll have to see what the figure was.

Mr Buff wanted nothing to do with 10F against better quality horses without the lead and/or a bias.

Sir Winston never...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 07-04-2020, 06:43 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,533
Posted By classhandicapper
I agree that Honor Code was clearly better than...

I agree that Honor Code was clearly better than McKinzie.
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 07-04-2020, 06:10 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,533
Posted By classhandicapper
Vekoma was very good and Code of Honor did very...

Vekoma was very good and Code of Honor did very well to close while also wide.

McKinzie didn't run as poorly as his finish. He was hung 4 wide the entire turn and didn't get beat that badly. ...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-04-2020, 04:21 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
I expect Tacitus to win but think he's...

I expect Tacitus to win but think he's unplayable. I don't want Mr Buff at 10F and think Morreti's last is at least somewhat suspect. Sir Winston would be the only one I'd consider, but I'm not...
Forum: General Handicapping Discussion 07-04-2020, 04:01 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,533
Posted By classhandicapper
If McKinzie goes off the favorite, I'll probably...

If McKinzie goes off the favorite, I'll probably take a small shot against him. I think he has been the best horse so far, but it's not 100% he's as good now as he has been at his best in the past....
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-04-2020, 03:51 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
IMO, Tacitus is going to be the favorite...

IMO, Tacitus is going to be the favorite (probably clear).

He's dropping into a weaker race, working better than he ever has in his career, seems set for a top effort, and the spot is almost...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-04-2020, 01:51 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Not that I understand Mott's thinking, but I...

Not that I understand Mott's thinking, but I don't think it would be the worst idea if he was sitting 2nd or 3rd behind Mr Buff hoping that one doesn't want the last furlong and then having first...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 07-04-2020, 01:25 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 4,871
Posted By classhandicapper
Andy, My Buff is a very nice horse. ...

Andy,

My Buff is a very nice horse.

He's a way above average statebred stakes horse. But no one would confuse him with high level Grade 1 horse at this point. The reason he has a chance...
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