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Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-12-2018, 08:10 PM
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Posted By PaceAdvantage
I should have written THAT good, instead of just...

I should have written THAT good, instead of just that good.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-12-2018, 02:27 PM
Replies: 738
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Posted By PaceAdvantage
How do you know they are only betting one horse...

How do you know they are only betting one horse in a race?

I never claimed to know exactly what they are doing. In order to come up with tote board inefficiencies, don't you have to handicap?...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-12-2018, 11:52 AM
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Posted By PaceAdvantage
That 9-1 horse that got pounded down to 9/2, I...

That 9-1 horse that got pounded down to 9/2, I had that horse at 9/5 on my line. Obviously, I had that one right (for a change), as the horse won like a 9/5 should.

So the public was very wrong on...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-12-2018, 11:50 AM
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Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Can't wait to see your video.

Can't wait to see your video.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-11-2018, 11:31 PM
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Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
What I see is happening far too often and on far...

What I see is happening far too often and on far too many races every day to be inside betting by connections. It has to be, at least the vast majority, these CRW teams.

As for Runaway Ghost, I've...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-11-2018, 09:00 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Who says they are dropping anchor on just one...

Who says they are dropping anchor on just one horse?

Frankly, I haven't seen anything from the "past posting" clan except isolated races cherry picked.

Gulfstream is said to have the biggest...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-11-2018, 08:31 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Human beings are interesting creatures. That's...

Human beings are interesting creatures. That's one thing I've learned from being here 19 years.

I am profoundly shocked there are so many people in this thread who believe that the racing industry...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-11-2018, 07:39 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Yeah, because they're good.

Yeah, because they're good.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-11-2018, 07:23 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Except they don't have an advantage that you are...

Except they don't have an advantage that you are I are missing.

Except $$$millions$$$ to bet with, and better handicapping software. But money and better tools have always been an accepted...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-10-2018, 02:30 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
If what they are doing is drastically altering...

If what they are doing is drastically altering the game for 99% of the other players, which it is, then you can make a very strong argument, that yes you can curtail their actions for the good of the...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-10-2018, 01:59 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
I've seen winners go up in price. I've seen...

I've seen winners go up in price. I've seen losers go down in price.

Who care if the ratio is 50 to 1 in favor of losers going down?

So....not....the....point.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-10-2018, 10:10 AM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
First stop, RTIP! :pound:

First stop, RTIP! :pound:
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-10-2018, 10:09 AM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
First stop, ARIP! :pound:

First stop, ARIP! :pound:
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 09:59 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Do you just like to argue? Or do you also like to...

Do you just like to argue? Or do you also like to make sense?

No, not the lower the payoff, the better. Their models, which some (like Pointdexter apparently) believe are the "best on the planet,"...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 07:11 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
You think they're working with inadequate models?...

You think they're working with inadequate models? :lol:

Come on man...and as for your other "nightmare scenarios," it all works out in the wash long term.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 07:10 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Of course it is...IF they KNOW the end price will...

Of course it is...IF they KNOW the end price will be where they want it to be...therefore, they can bet AS MUCH AS THEY CAN to drive it to that price and thus ensure MAXIMUM PROFIT.

I can't...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 03:54 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
If you maniacs don't think being able to wager...

If you maniacs don't think being able to wager vast sums of money, bringing a horse down to pretty much where your models say he should be, and also KNOWING that nobody can do a thing about it at...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 03:28 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
You're right. There is zero edge in betting and...

You're right. There is zero edge in betting and knowing a horse will be around 9/2 if it wins, versus betting a horse when she's 9/1 while loading into the gate and not knowing she's actually going...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 01:41 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
The few large teams operating out there are...

The few large teams operating out there are affecting the pools tremendously simply because they are betting some serious, serious money. Can we at least agree on that, since it's becoming obvious...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 12:50 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Not true. The public is being unfairly shut out...

Not true. The public is being unfairly shut out (or shut off, I should say), from the knowledge of nearly 40% or more of the wagering pool that is coming their way at a point in time when they have...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 11:23 AM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Something nefarious IS going on when close to...

Something nefarious IS going on when close to half the pool is missing from public information prior to the race going off.

The only way to solve this is via real time reporting. It can be done....
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-09-2018, 10:51 AM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Absolutely. I don't care if they close the...

Absolutely.

I don't care if they close the betting at the bell, or 10 minutes prior. That makes no difference to me. Nor would it solve this particular problem.

You guys all realize Keeneland...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 04-08-2018, 03:23 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
I SWEAR TO GOD, I AM GOING TO GIVE THIS ****ING...

I SWEAR TO GOD, I AM GOING TO GIVE THIS ****ING JOKE OF A GAME UP

I just bet :4: Ivy's College Fund at Keeneland in the 5th.

I bet the horse at 0mtp when it was 9 to ****ing 1.

8-1 morning...
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-28-2018, 12:14 AM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
I said one of the models I use, which I didn't...

I said one of the models I use, which I didn't use on that race.

I suck now. So don't listen to anything I say.
Forum: General Racing Discussion 03-27-2018, 04:07 PM
Replies: 738
Views: 96,614
Posted By PaceAdvantage
Somebody on this board must have this data...I've...

Somebody on this board must have this data...I've seen it posted by people before.
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