Taulbot Pace Calculator
 

I am considering the Taulbot Pace Calculator. I would appreciate any advise. I use a lot of angles and software. I've heard that this is a good program. I'm sure there are pros and cons. I am thankful for any and all advise.

Cos, don't know if you followed my use of the Taulbot Pace Calc (software) during this past Sar meet. Here are my final results:

Final stats for Saratoga 2012

Today: 12 selections, $24 wagered, $29.00 returned, 2 winners
Total: 208 selections, $416 wagered, $456.70 returned, 28 winners

win % = 13%
ave win mutuel = $16.31
roi = + 9.78

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...06#post1333106

I've been using it since 2004 and love it. Data files from Brisnet cost $1 per card and I wish it created a fair/true odds line.

cj has an odds line tool on his website that is excel based. Perhaps you could take some output from Pace Calculator and input into this excel sheet to create an odds line? Just a thought. His website is www.pacefigures.com and the odds line tool is listed under tools at the top.

Jim

Thanks Jim, much appreciated!

Tom

cj's pace figures
 

I can't see the tools feature on the website, mostly ads, where is it Thanks ron

Look under tools.

I Would like to hear others input on its effectiveness.. what is the thought behind the figures it produces..

Ted
 

Bought software was not what expected.Thought would have angle like those in magazine and the pace figure with angle ' s were disappointing.But what ever work's for you is what really inportant.As they are helpers in handicapping you still are the decision maker.Good luck with what ever you decide hope helped

Teddy did you read these two articles by Doc Sartin?

http://www.americanturf.com/pace/sartinarticle.cfm

http://www.americanturf.com/pace/sar...cle.cfm?page=2

I will now... thanks... Just wondered if it came up with selections, figs or something to add to my numbers..

The key to using the old Taulbot (hand held /slide) calculator was in creating very accurate track variants.
Does the Talbout (Software) Pace Calculator use result charts to somehow come up with track variants ?
How does it figure the TV's ?

It does not use charts. It gets all of the info from the BRIS single file DRF files.

Raw Rating

This is the Raw 800 (Highlight Pace Time) rating, calculated using the BRIS speed rating from the DRF file. It is called Raw because it is just the 800 rating without the Angle Percentage Points added.

AP Points

These are the Angle Percentage Points (in the Pace Calculator Manual they are called Angle Percentage Values, but I thought the abbreviation "APV" may cause some confusion).

Raw+APP

This is a combined Raw 800 rating plus the Angle Percentage Points.

This is copied strait from the manual for the software version.

Copyright © 1998 Randy Kovach

Actually Hoss, that wasn't the key to the pace calc as the calc (manual or software) works very well independent of using the tv or amer-var daily variant. The software works on the same basis as the handheld making use of the highlight fractional time, the final time, and the speed rating and as Dartman said all this is derived from the Bris/DRF single data file.

Thanks guys for the info on the software version.
I assume the Bris speed ratings already have the track variant in them.
I wish Bris had an "All Tracks Per Month" racefile package.

Actually I used the handheld model for many years and developed my own very accurate track variant method.
It took a lot of work each day, examining each race at each track, and I only did it with tracks in the west coast DRF chart recap edition.
But after coming up with a number from the highlight pace time-final time- and speed rating, ...It Was The Key to making the Taulbot Pace Calculator's "Final" Number far better than without it. It was like night and day.

I have fond memories of that old thing, and somewhere I still have it, cracked in spots and taped together .........
... from burning the midnight oil. :)

Fond Memories of Using The Pace Calculator at Ellis park in the 50's and 60's.
Hauled in many good priced winners with it.

Hoss I went back and forth with those chuckleheads from brisnet a number of times about that very thing. Guess when they have idiots like me some months paying upwards of $300+ for data files, why do a smaller monthly rate for unlimited files.

Lefty that must have been an AMAZING period of time going to the track back then! One of the posters on here who I've had the good fortune to communicate with numerous times, had as a mentor someone who actually went to the track with Ray Taulbot on a number of occasions. My friend's mentor used the pace calc for MANY years with phenomenal success as evidenced by all the journals he left behind (noting every single wager he ever made) when he passed away last year. That little piece of plastic was something else! :)

DRF was $119 unlimited monthly and if you pay for a year at a time like $100 monthly. If you can use DRF data files it's considerably cheaper.

[QUOTE=Lefty]Fond Memories of Using The Pace Calculator at Ellis park in the 50's and 60's.
Hauled in any good priced winners with it.[/QUOTE


Do you use the system any longer?

The Taulbot Pace Calculator is a pretty good piece of software.
I was fortunate enough to be given a copy when I briefly worked for Star
publishing.

Being as The Windows version is not compatible with my Vista operating system, I decided to combine AmerVar which was the original Taulbot software that requires manual entry, with the PaceAppraiser methodology.
I did todays 6th race at Belmont without using the optional "angles".
Here's what I came up with. Let's see how the race plays out.
My top 4 contenders are all within 5 points of the top rated horse.
Also notice that "Shankopotamus" has an obvious pace advantage.

Here are the screen shots for the 3rd race at todays DEL using (AmerVar) all the contenders that were within 5 points of the top rated horse. In this race there are (4). I did not use PaceAppraiser for this race.
I used the "Angles" adjustment for the top 4 horses.

jk3521, I haven't used it in years. I once had the old computer prgm of it where you put in everything manually. I then started using Doc Sartin prgms but now just use a couple of simple RPM prgms with my money mgt method.

Hi Lefty,

Out of curiosity, what RPM programs do you find interesting? Here or pm is great. Good to see you posting.

Jim

Jim, how are you? I have been using PHQS for a couple of months and have been getting some nice longshots with it. Just got TOP HORSE a couple of weeks ago and it's simple and i'm seeing some interesting aspects for place betting.
Both of these prgms are simple and quick.

R6 - 6, 5, 7 pace calc :)

Thank guys. Unfortunately the pace software only uses bris or trackmaster data files. I contacted Rich from HDW and he said Jcapper files will only work in that software. Appreciate the suggestions though.

Tom

Tom,

You may want to get a sample file from Jeff. I know for a fact his hdw files worked in several products that took bris files. I know they worked in WorKHorse Pro. I cannot recall if I tried in Pace Computer. They just need to be renamed to the drf extension. Check it out with Jeff before dismissing as an option.

Jim

Thank you VERY much guys!! Will contact Jeff asap!

Tom

I contacted Jeff who got right back to me, he sent me a few sample files, did as SF said and renamed file to drf.....BAM! Worked like a charm!!!

I thank both of you VERY much for your help!!

Tom

Jeff is first class to deal with. Been a customer of his since 2004 and never regretted it for a minute. Glad it worked out.

Jim

Any one using Craig's program try using the renamed drf file?

Doesn't work.

Best
Ken

It's on eBay $25

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ray-Taulbot-...item23235b6b0e

Quite the deal as ATM still sells it for $144.

It's on auction. Current bid $46 and change. Still not bad, but how high will it go?

Don't worry,the seller will be able to scratch up more copies.

It is important to note that this program will not work on 64 bit systems.

Big Bill