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gabe 02-05-2018 08:33 PM

Looking at horses on the track. What do you look for?
 
What do you look for when watching a horses body language in the paddock and on the track? Paddock profiling is underrated in my opinion.

RunForTheRoses 02-05-2018 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe (Post 2272694)
What do you look for when watching a horses body language in the paddock and on the track? Paddock profiling is underrated in my opinion.

I have a VHS copy of Beat the Beam, I probably haven't looked at it in 15 or 20 years. Have to bust out again, maybe digitize.

I remember one thing was in the post parade a horse relaxedly pumping its head up and down was a good sign.

RunForTheRoses 02-05-2018 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses (Post 2272704)
I have a VHS copy of Beat the Beam, I probably haven't looked at it in 15 or 20 years. Have to bust out again, maybe digitize.

I remember one thing was in the post parade a horse relaxedly pumping its head up and down was a good sign.

Here's an old thread on the video I was referring to, from Joe Takach:

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=10545

jocko699 02-05-2018 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe (Post 2272694)
What do you look for when watching a horses body language in the paddock and on the track? Paddock profiling is underrated in my opinion.

Anxious, kidney sweat, getting hot. On the toes is always a plus.

gabe 02-05-2018 09:15 PM

RTR

you sure sir

AltonKelsey 02-05-2018 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe (Post 2272694)
What do you look for when watching a horses body language in the paddock and on the track? Paddock profiling is underrated in my opinion.

It's not underrated at all. It's just extremely hard to do well, and takes a long time to get right.

Maggie W is probably the best of the modern practitioners , at least in public view, and she can get it wrong on occasion.

Still, if you have the skills, its valuable.


I suspect some native talent is needed, and everyone would not be able to excel at it.

VigorsTheGrey 02-05-2018 10:14 PM

Arched neck and head
Focused (not biting or playing with companion)
Excellent musculature and confirmation
On toes, but still calm and professional
Tail,not swishing, yet tail base slightly erect out of the body
Coat is shiny
Not washy
Not listless
No belly fat

ultracapper 02-05-2018 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey (Post 2272735)
Arched neck and head
Focused (not biting or playing with companion)
Excellent musculature and confirmation
On toes, but still calm and professional
Tail,not swishing, yet tail base slightly erect out of the body
Coat is shiny
Not washy
Not listless
No belly fat

This has always been a good one, and one that's easy to notice.

dansan 02-06-2018 12:29 AM

A 20%or higher Jockey on his ASS :lol:

AltonKelsey 02-06-2018 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ultracapper (Post 2272772)
This has always been a good one, and one that's easy to notice.

Arched head and neck.........

even better when it's on the trainer.

davew 02-06-2018 02:50 AM

From a television screen, you get to see what a monitor shows you. Sometimes you can see where a horse is not going to perform like in the past - crazy in paddock, no warm up, jockey walking horse without feet in stirrups, bucking jockey.... or a first timer has exceptional size and muscling, feeling good

I think there were 3 videos from Takach and Ledbetter and another couple books.

Here is an interesting article...
http://www.drf.com/news/eye-beholder-what-look-race

PICSIX 02-06-2018 06:30 AM

Spleen dump!

biggestal99 02-06-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2272707)
Anxious, kidney sweat, getting hot. On the toes is always a plus.

You can see that on the feed usually.

Hot and sweating. Its a sure lay for me.

Allan

biggestal99 02-06-2018 08:09 AM

Taking a dump just before entering the gate. way too nervous.

Lay, Lay, Lay.

Allan

castaway01 02-06-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2272816)
You can see that on the feed usually.

Hot and sweating. Its a sure lay for me.

Allan

No one needs to hear about your dating life Allan---we have kids reading these threads.

Seriously though, if you're going to study appearance, while occasionally a horse truly stands out amongst the others, that horse is often 3-5. It really helps to know what a horse usually looks like (i.e., you'll have to do this all the time). Some horses sweat or don't meet all the specifications but that's how they always look and it doesn't matter. It's the CHANGES in appearance from race to race, both bad and good, that are key.


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