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georgetkingiv 10-12-2017 10:57 PM

Winx Vs Enable
 
Who would win?

biggestal99 10-13-2017 09:00 AM

Older mare v 3 year old

Beholder-songbird

I rest my case.

Allan

Racetrack Playa 10-13-2017 09:03 AM

da Mare beyond compare

RacingFan1992 10-13-2017 11:01 AM

This is gonna be a close call. They have both raced at up to or down to 11 furlongs. Hard to say. They both have the same running styles. Winx has to hustle more during her races since they are shorter but Enable has a farther distance to get into stride. I say they are pretty much equal.

As for the BS debate of older vs younger

Conquistador Cielo in the Met Mile
Holy Bull against older horses in the 1994 season
Citation in the Seminole Handicap against Armed 1947 Horse of the Year.

Older vs Younger means just as much as Brown vs Gray.

Road Kill 10-13-2017 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2230871)
Older mare v 3 year old

Beholder-songbird

I rest my case.

Allan


Beholder won by a ball hair...that said, picked Winx.

georgetkingiv 10-13-2017 10:23 PM


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Racetrack Playa 10-15-2017 11:02 AM

10/28

biggestal99 10-16-2017 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road Kill (Post 2230917)
Beholder won by a ball hair...that said, picked Winx.

Beholder overcame a slow pace and a wide trip.

Songbird had everything her own way

Beholder stilled surged in the last stride to get up.

Allan

Road Kill 10-17-2017 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2231792)
Beholder overcame a slow pace and a wide trip.

Songbird had everything her own way

Beholder stilled surged in the last stride to get up.

Allan

Again, won by a ball hair and had to go to photo. They were neck and neck down the stretch. SB ran the way she likes to run and Beholder ran the race she prefers or usually runs. She's a big mare that usually went wide on turns and usually sat 3-4 lengths off the pace. What was to overcome?

Plus probably not the best choice of mare to hold as example when talking older vs younger when Beholder was beat by a younger Stellar Wind twice last year.

caper 10-27-2017 08:28 AM

Is Winx a mare that could race in that big one at Gulfstream? Or is that a different league?

Racetrack Playa 10-27-2017 10:50 AM


Vinnie 10-27-2017 11:24 AM

Thanks for sharing... That is awesome... What a beautiful and phenomenal horse!! :):)

Vinnie 10-27-2017 11:41 AM

What time does Winx Race (in terms of EST) in the Cox Plate since they are ahead of us approximately a half of a day. If anyone could be of assistance, I would appreciate it.

caper 10-27-2017 12:08 PM

She will race at 2am EST.

Vinnie 10-27-2017 12:13 PM

Thank you very much caper. I have to watch this event. Man, I hope that she can get it done!!

steveb 10-27-2017 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caper (Post 2235038)
Is Winx a mare that could race in that big one at Gulfstream? Or is that a different league?

yes, they're probably far inferior to her!
but why would she bother?

caper 10-28-2017 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveb (Post 2235310)
yes, they're probably far inferior to her!
but why would she bother?

I don't know. 7 million dollars. Make more then half in one race then she made in her entire career. Kind of an obvious answer.

georgetkingiv 10-29-2017 06:22 PM


jocko699 10-29-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgetkingiv (Post 2235857)

Thank you very much for that link.:ThmbUp::ThmbUp::ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

Afleet 10-29-2017 06:50 PM

Run the race in Hong Kong

Market Mover 10-29-2017 07:28 PM

at what distance and on what ground?

georgetkingiv 11-05-2017 09:43 AM


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ultracapper 01-03-2018 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingFan1992 (Post 2230888)
This is gonna be a close call. They have both raced at up to or down to 11 furlongs. Hard to say. They both have the same running styles. Winx has to hustle more during her races since they are shorter but Enable has a farther distance to get into stride. I say they are pretty much equal.

As for the BS debate of older vs younger

Conquistador Cielo in the Met Mile
Holy Bull against older horses in the 1994 season
Citation in the Seminole Handicap against Armed 1947 Horse of the Year.

Older vs Younger means just as much as Brown vs Gray.

Haha. 3 examples from the last 70 years closes the case.

I only posted this meaningless post because I was so inspired by the quoted meaningless post.

And, just for the record, as a self-declared solid handicapper, in the long run, I'll take the older horse if that's what I'm left with to break the tie.

Edit: If the 3 yo is proven against older, then age certainly is meaningless.

georgetkingiv 01-08-2018 06:32 PM


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biggestal99 01-10-2018 06:45 AM

September 18, 1978

4 year old Seattle Slew at 2-1 or 3 yearsold affirmed at 1-2 going 9 furlongs on a fast dirt surface at Belmont

Who do you bet?

Allan

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Gamblor 01-30-2018 12:04 AM

I am not convinced Winx is as good as she was 12 months ago. All horses have a peak period and I fear by the time she goes to Europe her peak period will be behind her.

That being said they might not beat her anyway.

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