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dilanesp 12-02-2021 04:16 PM

photo finish shenanigans at NYRA
 

classhandicapper 12-02-2021 05:37 PM

This is the kind of thing that leads conspiratorial minded people to speculate about photos.

#songbirdwon :lol:

dilanesp 12-02-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classhandicapper (Post 2769934)
This is the kind of thing that leads conspiratorial minded people to speculate about photos.

#songbirdwon :lol:

It really does. "Posting the photo", which racing has done for over 80 years (it used to be they physically posted hard copies of the photo throughout the grandstand) is a crucial transparency issue. We've all seen races where we thought watching live or on TV that the :1: horse won and they put up the :2: . And if something went wrong with the photo, the explanation should be full and meticulous, not cursory. This is a BFD.

cj 12-02-2021 06:44 PM


46zilzal 12-02-2021 06:56 PM

AGAIN, the MIRROR is the finish line NOT the winning post..
AGAIN, the MIRROR is the finish line NOT the winning post..
AGAIN, the MIRROR is the finish line NOT the winning post..

At Woodbine, for example, the mirror is almost 6 FULL INCHES PAST THE OUTSIDE margin of the winning post

Sometimes the judges ask for a specific enlargement of the photo sent out to the crowd to insure it is clear to all, what the finish was. I often would blow up the photo very large so show how close it was, but that enlargement OFTEN was changed to a samller one.

PaceAdvantage 12-02-2021 06:59 PM

Interesting choice of words..."shenanigans"

As if they did this on purpose.

As if they HAD a photo available but chose not to use it...and instead tried something else to perhaps alter the actual outcome.

Do people seriously believe that is what happened here?

Reading the replies to Grening's tweet is nothing but standard Internet shenanigans.

46zilzal 12-02-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2769937)
I2: . And if something went wrong with the photo, the explanation should be full and meticulous, not cursory. This is a BFD.

I agree wholeheartedly as sometimes there are troubles even with the back up camera.

PaceAdvantage 12-02-2021 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 46zilzal (Post 2769958)
AGAIN, the MIRROR is the finish line NOT the winning post..
AGAIN, the MIRROR is the finish line NOT the winning post..
AGAIN, the MIRROR is the finish line NOT the winning post..

At Woodbine, for example, the mirror is almost 6 FULL INCHES PAST THE OUTSIDE margin of the winning post

Sometimes the judges ask for a specific enlargement of the photo sent out to the crowd to insure it is clear to all, what the finish was. I often would blow up the photo very large so show how close it was, but that enlargement OFTEN was changed to a samller one.

Once again, your reply has nothing to do with what is actually happening here.

But thanks for injecting yourself just to hear the sound of your own keys clacking and providing us with yet another reason why you are so important and knowledgeable.

46zilzal 12-02-2021 07:02 PM

In over 10 years NOT ONCE, NOT EVER, did the judges interfere with the truthful results of a photo.

I disagreed a few times, and each time, the judges showed me where I WAS INCORRECT.

dilanesp 12-02-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2769961)
Interesting choice of words..."shenanigans"

As if they did this on purpose.

As if they HAD a photo available but chose not to use it...and instead tried something else to perhaps alter the actual outcome.

Do people seriously believe that is what happened here?

Reading the replies to Grening's tweet is nothing but standard Internet shenanigans.

Screwing up on the photo is not shenanigans. But everything else about this episode certainly qualifies as shenanigans. There's a way to deal with this situation, and it isn't the way NYRA did it..

46zilzal 12-02-2021 07:03 PM

The vast majority of people DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE 'line" is nor how the phot system works.

The scan rate could have been wrong, he lights turned on too late (they are brighter righ after the switch is thrown than later), there can be intervening factors like on tongue is ahead of another and the crowd thinks that is reason to disbelive the photo, one horse coming OUT of a stride makes it look that the chest is closer to the line than the other horse extedning into stride..

LOTS of reasons a photo is not that representative of the outcome

PaceAdvantage 12-02-2021 07:04 PM

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she·nan·i·gans
/SHəˈnanəɡənz/
Learn to pronounce
nounINFORMAL
secret or dishonest activity or maneuvering.
"widespread financial shenanigans had ruined the fortunes of many"
How so, in light of the definition of the word?

Andy Asaro 12-02-2021 07:04 PM


PaceAdvantage 12-02-2021 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 46zilzal (Post 2769968)
The vast majority of people DO NOT KNOW WHERE THE 'line" is nor how the phot system works

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED HERE

You're unintentionally hilarious

46zilzal 12-02-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2769971)
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED HERE

You're unintentionally hilarious

And just how many here acually worked as a photofinish camera operator? Hmmmmmm?


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