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azeri98 11-26-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasticDan (Post 2400944)

This is bad news for Trumps agenda, those tax cuts didn't help GM I guess.

Clocker 11-26-2018 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasticDan (Post 2400944)
Trump has been lying this month that car plants are opening in "Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania and South Carolina and North Carolina and Florida." https://twitter.com/AP/status/1067079061028200448 …

It's just a little exaggeration to get his message across to the public. Like when he touted the impact of his steel tariffs. Nothing wrong with a guy tooting his own horn every once in a while. :faint:

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President Donald Trump is crediting his tariffs with persuading U.S. Steel to open a half dozen new plants. That's not so.

TRUMP at a Pennsylvania rally Thursday night: "U.S. Steel is opening up seven plants." On Tuesday, he told supporters in Florida: "U.S. Steel just announced that they're building six new steel mills."

THE FACTS: The Pittsburgh-based company has made no such announcement. U.S. Steel spokeswoman Meghan Cox declined to comment on Trump's claim but said any "operational changes" such as the opening of new mills would be "publicly announced" and "made available on our website" if it occurred.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...g-mills-not-so

barahona44 11-26-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2400275)
The American farmer was doing so well with soy products that it cut planting carrots. Now shifting more a percentage of carrots there will not be the shortage in carrots in 2019 that there was 2018. Hey I read, just let you know I don't need the phone for anything other than making calls. Let me spell it out for you, F%$&k China.

Thank God I can start making carrot cake again. :cool:

fast4522 11-26-2018 07:26 PM

Well it is factual, instead of carrots farmers increased soy. The very small fraction that these United States sells into mainland China is a pittance compared to what China sells into our country. The pressure of trade tariffs is well worth the pain we absorb for objectives of forcing fair trade with China. Our friend with the economics degree is more concerned about his portfolio than those poor poor Walmart shoppers.

JustRalph 11-26-2018 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by azeri98 (Post 2400962)
This is bad news for Trumps agenda, those tax cuts didn't help GM I guess.

GM has always been their own worse enemy.

Look around? They have the worst designed cars on the planet. Wasted billions on the Volt.

The Cadillac division has been a loser for 15 yrs plus

Pontiac and Olds disappeared after producing quite possibly the worst looking cars ever.


Anybody recall the Aztek?

Good riddance!

Clocker 11-26-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2401065)
Well it is factual, instead of carrots farmers increased soy.


Did you just make this up? The big carrot growers are in California, Washington, and Texas. Soybeans are a major crop in the upper Midwest: Iowa, Minnesota, and the Dakotas. And soybean farmers there are hurting.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/08/refu...ps-buying.html

boxcar 11-26-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2401072)
GM has always been their own worse enemy.

Look around? They have the worst designed cars on the planet. Wasted billions on the Volt.

The Cadillac division has been a loser for 15 yrs plus

Pontiac and Olds disappeared after producing quite possibly the worst looking cars ever.


Anybody recall the Aztek?

Good riddance!

But it's so much easier for the lazy-minded to blame Trump for GM's woes.

fast4522 11-26-2018 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2401084)
Did you just make this up? The big carrot growers are in California, Washington, and Texas. Soybeans are a major crop in the upper Midwest: Iowa, Minnesota, and the Dakotas. And soybean farmers there are hurting.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/08/refu...ps-buying.html

Carrots are like grass, will grow anyplace. Yes a shortage in 2018 because other crops.

chadk66 11-26-2018 08:13 PM

Soy Bean farmers can plant numerous other crops besides Soy Beans. They've been planting crops based on proposed prices for the upcoming year forever. They will just choose to plant other crops for the most part. In ND farmers have a choice between about fourteen different crops. Most have half a dozen different crops in a given year. And with the steep reduction of Soy Bean acres planted over the next couple years will come record prices for Soy Beans the following couple years. Happens all the time with crops.

Clocker 11-26-2018 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chadk66 (Post 2401094)
Soy Bean farmers can plant numerous other crops besides Soy Beans.

Including carrots?


Are ND farmers hurt or not by Chinese tariffs on soybeans?

FantasticDan 01-23-2019 03:05 PM


jocko699 01-23-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasticDan (Post 2421863)

Ummm, they would never do that

Clocker 01-23-2019 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2422016)
Ummm, they would never do that

Why not? Most of the politicians there and elsewhere are just as clueless about tariffs as Trump is, and don't realize that all they are doing is imposing higher taxes on their own citizens.

jocko699 01-23-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2422021)
Why not? Most of the politicians there and elsewhere are just as clueless about tariffs as Trump is, and don't realize that all they are doing is imposing higher taxes on their own citizens.

Because at the end of the day the grown-ups will decide, i.e. those with the money in their pockets.

Clocker 01-23-2019 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2422026)
Because at the end of the day the grown-ups will decide, i.e. those with the money in their pockets.


The "grown-ups" with money in their pockets hate tariffs. They love the profits on cheap imports sold to citizens of the richest country in the world in a healthy economy.


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