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GARY Z 06-26-2010 07:00 AM

Rudy Rodriguez
 
Haven't seen any comments on NY's latest and greatest trainer
list who is closing in on Mr.Pletcher as the leading trainer of the meet.

He apparently fits the mode of previous hot trainers(Pistol Pete,
Oscar B) with not one owner giving him a Grade I candidate,
but shines in Claiming races at will..

Guess his many years as a Jock prepared him for greatness :eek:

Robert Goren 06-26-2010 08:16 AM

He is a former jockey who started training this winter. He used to work for one of the Dutrows. He pretty amazing with horses the first time they start with him. I leave you to your own conclusions on how he accomplishes the remarkable turn arounds. There was a short thread on him a while back.

only11 06-26-2010 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GARY Z
Haven't seen any comments on NY's latest and greatest trainer
list who is closing in on Mr.Pletcher as the leading trainer of the meet.

He apparently fits the mode of previous hot trainers(Pistol Pete,
Oscar B) with not one owner giving him a Grade I candidate,
but shines in Claiming races at will..

Guess his many years as a Jock prepared him for greatness :eek:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: great sarcasm..

PaceAdvantage 06-26-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GARY Z
Haven't seen any comments on NY's latest and greatest trainer
list who is closing in on Mr.Pletcher as the leading trainer of the meet.

There's been comments made in the Stephanie Beattie thread:

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...15&#post913715

Stillriledup 06-26-2010 09:43 PM

RU-DY! RU-DY! RU-DY!

As far as training goes? Rudy's been waiting for this his whole life.

GARY Z 06-27-2010 10:00 AM

Rudy R
 
I believe I get your drift.

Seems every track, at one point or another witnesses this
scenario.

It is just moind boggling when you line up the trainers, their experience,
and averages when these "rising stars" suddenly appear and make
other trainers appear inept based upon the cliamed horses suddenly
winning and running way faster.

While I understand some trainers can win eliminating medical issues to
claimers not addressed by previous trainers, this winning record
by a relatively inexperienced trainer bears scrutiny.

kenwoodall2 06-27-2010 12:55 PM

Pittsburgh Phil
 
"Many owners and trainers make mistakes and frequently spoil a good horse by not making him
happy in his surroundings. A horse is just like a person in this respect. To do his best work, he
must be contented. Whenever I bought a horse my first object was to find out his disposition. I
have watched him closely in his stall, watched his eating, whether he had a good appetite, or
minced at his meals. Any failing he had I would always try and remedy in some way or another."
Maybe he puts a goat or chicken in their stalls. Maybe not too many do that anymore?

big frank 06-27-2010 10:19 PM

It all comes down to the owners...... There are certain owners that do well with who ever is the trainer.... It has more to do with the owner/vet combos then the trainer listed.

sonnyp 06-27-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big frank
It all comes down to the owners...... There are certain owners that do well with who ever is the trainer.... It has more to do with the owner/vet combos then the trainer listed.



i used to hear things about an owner, james riccio, in n y. he moved his horses around a lot, but the trainers he was with always did very well. makes you wonder.

phatbastard 06-27-2010 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big frank
It all comes down to the owners...... There are certain owners that do well with who ever is the trainer.... It has more to do with the owner/vet combos then the trainer listed.



amen

cj 07-10-2010 03:31 PM

Well, now Rudy can even apparently "improve" turf sprinters he claims from the turf sprinter queen, Linda Rice. In his first start since being claimed by King Rudy, Tahoe Warrior is able to win 100k stakes race at Calder.

The horse had to improve 3 to 4 lengths, which over 5f is no small feat. He hasn't run 1 or 2 in anything but a claiming race in about 4 years. All hail King Rudy.

thaskalos 07-10-2010 09:16 PM

Why are his trainer exploits so surprising to so many racing fans? It's not like he didn't pay his dues in this game...

After all...he did compile a 221/3,900 (5.7%) record, in an 18 year riding career.

cj 07-10-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaskalos
Why are his trainer exploits so surprising to so many racing fans? It's not like he didn't pay his dues in this game...

After all...he did compile a 221/3,900 (5.7%) record, in an 18 year riding career.

I assume that is sarcasm. The list of jocks turned successful trainers is very small indeed, percentage wise.

thaskalos 07-10-2010 10:08 PM

How does an obscure, mediocre jockey like this achieve this level of success RIGHT AWAY - when there have been Hall of Fame trainers who have never had stats like these?

I know that he worked for a "top" trainer...but this is unbelievable...

A 7 year-old horse improving 4 lengths in a 5 fur. race in its first start for Rudy...while rising dramatically in class? And it pays $6.80?

And then...the industry wonders why the big bettors have fled from this game...

Dahoss9698 07-10-2010 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaskalos
How does an obscure, mediocre jockey like this achieve this level of success RIGHT AWAY - when there have been Hall of Fame trainers who have never had stats like these?

I know that he worked for a "top" trainer...but this is unbelievable...

A 7 year-old horse improving 4 lengths in a 5 fur. race in its first start for Rudy...while rising dramatically in class? And it pays $6.80?

And then...the industry wonders why the big bettors have fled from this game...

Did you actually look at that race today though? I know technically it was a rise in class, but with the exception of Bernie The Maestro they were all claimers.

Don't get me wrong, he's improving horses and doing it with almost every horse he gets. But I don't see this one as that big a move up based on the race today.


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