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coachv30 03-11-2018 09:15 PM

FLM 9-:8: $14.60

coachv30 03-11-2018 10:08 PM

We're due for one at Rideau-Carlton....

Race 11- :8: Gagnon / Gagnon - 8/1 ML

Ray2000 03-12-2018 08:29 AM

Woodbine R 6 . #8

Class Me Nice-6/1 . . . . Jackie Mo/Jackie Mo

Moiseyev on a claimed Trotter !

sharkey11 03-12-2018 11:10 AM

ray that was a very helpful chart on the driver trainers thank you .didnt you do one on off the claim or trainer claims for himself ? i went looking for it on here but theres just too many posts to search through . thanks an best of luck capping :headbanger:

Ray2000 03-12-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkey11 (Post 2289286)
ray that was a very helpful chart on the driver trainers thank you .didnt you do one on off the claim or trainer claims for himself ? i went looking for it on here but theres just too many posts to search through . thanks an best of luck capping :headbanger:

thx
that post on betting horses off claim is here
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=140391

I never did verify by checking other years but I think the positive ROIs are true.

Bogo 03-12-2018 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray2000 (Post 2288788)
Hey coach, Dover or Canadian "B" is where to look. Good Luck

Code:

Driver is Trainer               
Track        Starts        ROI
ddx        345        1.048
flm        666        0.964
lex        505        0.913
grv        337        0.905
rcr        402        0.901
npx        444        0.883
vdx        1114        0.872
tgd        626        0.869
rid        911        0.852
btv        408        0.821
haw        584        0.814
mxx        445        0.791
phl        731        0.788
fhl        370        0.760
mea        1259        0.758
               
Driver not Trainer but has same last name               
lex        60        1.530
haw        273        0.971
ddx        324        0.956
tgd        34        0.929
mvr        548        0.910
hop        504        0.908
scd        749        0.893
wdb        143        0.812
yrx        235        0.805
stg        777        0.790
rcr        159        0.786
dtn        316        0.760
grv        99        0.760
mrx        173        0.756
vdx        355        0.730


What if we only bet these combos at 5-1 or better?

Ray2000 03-12-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogo (Post 2289396)
What if we only bet these combos at 5-1 or better?

Typically most overlays are in the 3/1 - 5/1 range on any subset of horses.

This is the case here.
Sweet spot seems to be between 3/1 and 7/2

These ROIs are for all starters where Dr = Tr or Dr and Tr same last name.

All 5/1 or higher odds is 0.666, 24,843 starters.

The way I do ROIs is using a population of starters with a certain criteria.
It's good for showing trends but it's possible some of these starters are in the same race.
ROIs are lowered a bit because of that.

coachv30 03-12-2018 08:13 PM

Western Fair

Race 6- :9: $20.40.......G. Dustin / G. Dustin

jocko699 03-12-2018 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray2000 (Post 2289260)
Woodbine R 6 . #8

Class Me Nice-6/1 . . . . Jackie Mo/Jackie Mo

Moiseyev on a claimed Trotter !

IMO, he actually raced better than the line will look.

coachv30 03-12-2018 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2289480)
IMO, he actually raced better than the line will look.

Agreed!!

Pompano 5

:1: ML 8/1....Simons / Simons

coachv30 03-12-2018 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachv30 (Post 2289481)
Agreed!!

Pompano 5

:1: ML 8/1....Simons / Simons

Recovered strongly after a break to finish 3rd.

jocko699 03-12-2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachv30 (Post 2289485)
Recovered strongly after a break to finish 3rd.

Great call, $4.40 to show!!!

coachv30 03-12-2018 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocko699 (Post 2289486)
Great call, $4.40 to show!!!


By a nose :bang:

Pompano 6- :5: Hoffman / Hoffman ML 5-1

coachv30 03-12-2018 10:22 PM

Pompano 8

:7: Major / Major...ML15 / 1

:9: Schaut / Schaut...ML 8/1

coachv30 03-12-2018 10:57 PM

Yonkers 10- :5: $27.40...LaChance / LaChance


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