| Dahoss9698 |
02-28-2012 08:47 PM |
Speaking of Etiquette
http://www.sonomacountyfair.com/docs/febrace.pdf
Public Comments : Vic Stauffer presented a letter to each member of the Committee, with copies to be given to all Board members, and asked that the committee give him the opportunity to be the Announcer and to reconsider their decision to hire Michael Wrona as the 2012 Fair Announcer.
I'm sure there's a good explanation and all, but trying to take a colleague's job has to go against some kind of announcer code, right?
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| proximity |
02-28-2012 09:05 PM |
seeking attractive, mature woman with box seat at sonoma county fair for possible ltr.....:rolleyes:
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| thaskalos |
02-28-2012 10:17 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahoss9698
http://www.sonomacountyfair.com/docs/febrace.pdf
Public Comments : Vic Stauffer presented a letter to each member of the Committee, with copies to be given to all Board members, and asked that the committee give him the opportunity to be the Announcer and to reconsider their decision to hire Michael Wrona as the 2012 Fair Announcer.
I'm sure there's a good explanation and all, but trying to take a colleague's job has to go against some kind of announcer code, right?
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Why doesn't this surprise me? |
Wow.
That is kind of low-class. Wonder how he'd like it if Trevor showed up at Hollywood?
The ladies hat day is an intriguing proposal, though.
NYRA?
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I thought there was some unwritten announcer brotherhood.
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| KingChas |
02-28-2012 11:52 PM |
Hard to believe some find this shocking, "Dog eat Dog" is the current USA mentality. :eek:
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| Dave Schwartz |
02-29-2012 12:03 AM |
Quote:
Public Comments : Vic Stauffer presented a letter to each member of the Committee, with copies to be given to all Board members, and asked that the committee give him the opportunity to be the Announcer and to reconsider their decision to hire Michael Wrona as the 2012 Fair Announcer.
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My best guess is that there is more to this story than what we see here.
Just my opinion.
Regards,
Dave schwartz |
| toussaud |
02-29-2012 12:04 AM |
There is ovbiusly only one way to solve this. Celebrity Death Match.
Seriously though I'm not going to crap on the guy. It's a dog eat dog world out there. when it comes to bettering my career and putting food on the table screw being nice, I'm going to do whatever I can within the law to get what I can and and you it would be wise if you did the same. I am quite sure vic cares about mr. wronga's job but not at the expensive is his. that's not very practical in a capitalist society.
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| bigmack |
02-29-2012 12:07 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by toussaud
that's not very practical in a capitalist society.
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Heaven's no. Certainly not practical. :rolleyes:
Ethically not so mush.
Guy's awready been given the gig! This would be like Sammy D Jr., going to The Sands and tryin' to squeeze out Martin. Although I'd much rather see Sammy over DM. :ThmbDown: |
| thaskalos |
02-29-2012 12:13 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by toussaud
There is ovbiusly only one way to solve this. Celebrity Death Match.
Seriously though I'm not going to crap on the guy. It's a dog eat dog world out there. when it comes to bettering my career and putting food on the table screw being nice, I'm going to do whatever I can within the law to get what I can and and you it would be wise if you did the same. I am quite sure vic cares about mr. wronga's job but not at the expensive is his. that's not very practical in a capitalist society.
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Yeah...but wasn't it Vic Stauffer who was so vocal in his condemnation of Andy Beyer for pointing out Richard Grunder's shortcomings as a race caller in one of his columns...and didn't he preach ethics to us when he was questioned about it? |
| toussaud |
02-29-2012 12:15 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmack
Heaven's no. Certainly not practical. :rolleyes:
Ethically not so mush.
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if i have learned anyting over the years as a business man is that everyone has ethics until it comes to bettering their bottom line or are in a position to take advantage of you then they have excuses and rationalizations.
\I've had clients just flat out lie about not getting websites that cost high 4 figures and have had to dispute credit card transactions for services that i could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt i rendered. hell at this very moment \ and i am not making this up, the only reason i'm up this late is because i had a client who owes me the third installment of a payment for a job that did for him, we built his website for him and he owes us about 1800 dollars , we moved the site and he got cute and tried to change the password on the site and lock us out so we couldn't get to the site, thinking he could just walk away from the job and not pay the 1800 dollars. what he doesn't know is we have software that allows us to get to the site's file s and delete them embedded into every site we build so right now i'm taking his site off the internet. not my first rodeo. So don't come to me about being ethic. . no one gives 2 shits about you or your career at the end of the day. screw the fact that I have employees and i have to make payroll. screw the fact that the services were rendered above and beyond what he expected. he's just going to try to get over because he can.
if vic thinks he has a legit chance to get the job, do what you gotta do. doesn't mean he doesn't like michael. but it' s a grind out there. gotta put food on the table. |
| thaskalos |
02-29-2012 12:19 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by toussaud
if i have learned anyting over the years as a business man is that everyone has ethics until it comes to bettering their bottom line or are in a position to take advantage of you then they have excuses and rationalizations.
\I've had clients just flat out lie about not getting websites that cost high 4 figures and have had to dispute credit card transactions for services that i could prove beyond a shadow of a doubt i rendered. hell at this very moment \ and i am not making this up, the only reason i'm up this late is because i had a client who owes me the third installment of a payment for a job that did for him, we built his website for him and he owes us about 1800 dollars , we moved the site and he got cute and tried to change the password on the site and lock us out so we couldn't get to the site, thinking he could just walk away from the job and not pay the 1800 dollars. what he doesn't know is we have software that allows us to get to the site's file s and delete them embedded into every site we build so right now i'm taking his site off the internet. not my first rodeo. So don't come to me about being ethic. . no one gives 2 shits about you or your career at the end of the day. screw the fact that I have employees and i have to make payroll. screw the fact that the services were rendered above and beyond what he expected. he's just going to try to get over because he can.
if vic thinks he has a legit chance to get the job, doe what you gotta do. doesn't mean he doesn't like michael. but it' s a grind out there. gotta put food on the table.
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Wow...
Have you ever thought of writing a book about your life? It sounds fascinating... |
| johnhannibalsmith |
02-29-2012 12:19 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by thaskalos
Yeah...but wasn't it Vic Stauffer who was so vocal in his condemnation of Andy Beyer for pointing out Richard Grunder's shortcomings as a race caller in one of his columns...and didn't he preach ethics to us when he was questioned about it?
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Not to mention his tirade against Craig Braddick about "shitting where he eats" or some such violation of the announcer fraternity. |
| bigmack |
02-29-2012 12:20 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by toussaud
if i have learned anyting over the years as a business man is that everyone has ethics until it comes to bettering their bottom line or are in a position to take advantage of you then they have excuses and rationalizations.
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Few here are more qualified than I about running a business for decades. If you have found people to lack THAT MUCH in character when being a professional, I question the line of bidness you's in.
OH, internet. Well come on, that's plastic.
Here I go with another hyperbolic analogy ala Patrick/Porn....
So if you're willing to do anything to get a gig, would you do something illegal? Where do you draw the line on this 'dog eat dog' existence? |
| thaskalos |
02-29-2012 12:22 AM |
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Originally Posted by johnhannibalsmith
Not to mention his tirade against Craig Braddick about "shitting in his own house" or some such violation of the announcer fraternity.
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And let's also not forget how heartbroken Vic was when Craig lost his job at Yavapai...
A real class act this Mr. Stauffer... |
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