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JustRalph 11-14-2009 04:46 PM

These People don't exist. Black Conservatives
 

BlueShoe 11-14-2009 05:52 PM

The disturbing thing about the Black Conservatives on the Beck program is that with one or two exceptions they all voted for Obama.I like Charles Payne,and think that his comments on the market are very astute,but even he voted for BO.The double standard is still very much in place;quite acceptable for a person of a minority to vote by race rather than ideology,but never ever is this permitted for whites without it being labeled as racist.Still,it is encouraging to see that there are conservatives among minorities and that there is growing disenchantment with Obamas policies in the black community.

Tom 11-14-2009 10:25 PM

Here is a good rule of thumb. If you voted Obama, you are not a conservative. If you say you are, you are lying, and now we know why you voted for him.

No true conservative fell for the obvious lies and socialist agenda of Obama.

Hank 11-14-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueShoe
The disturbing thing about the Black Conservatives on the Beck program is that with one or two exceptions they all voted for Obama.I like Charles Payne,and think that his comments on the market are very astute,but even he voted for BO.
Quote:

The double standard is still very much in place;quite acceptable for a person of a minority to vote by race rather than ideology,but never ever is this permitted for whites without it being labeled as racist.
Still,it is encouraging to see that there are conservatives among minorities and that there is growing disenchantment with Obamas policies in the black community.

So if the the candidate of your "ideology" happens to be an idiot or maybe a scumbag or simply is inferior to the other guy you will slavishly support him because he espouses the right ideology,gotcha.
Also Its hilarious the way you guys can so clearly see "double standards" and "reverse racism" but the traditional ugly racism that still plagues our country somehow escapes your keen senses.:rolleyes:

Tom 11-14-2009 11:17 PM

Racism "plagues" this country?
Yeah. Right. I have seen real racism in my time.
It is mostly a convenient excuse these days. Plague? Yeah, right.
Except for pockets of it, like Obama's church.

boxcar 11-14-2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank
So if the the candidate of your "ideology" happens to be an idiot or maybe a scumbag or simply is inferior to the other guy you will slavishly support him because he espouses the right ideology,gotcha.
Also Its hilarious the way you guys can so clearly see "double standards" and "reverse racism" but the traditional ugly racism that still plagues our country somehow escapes your keen senses.:rolleyes:

And, Einstein, just who would you support in your scenario? A "superior" candidate with an ideology that is antithetical to what you believe? :rolleyes:

Boxcar

Valuist 11-15-2009 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueShoe
The disturbing thing about the Black Conservatives on the Beck program is that with one or two exceptions they all voted for Obama.I like Charles Payne,and think that his comments on the market are very astute,but even he voted for BO.The double standard is still very much in place;quite acceptable for a person of a minority to vote by race rather than ideology,but never ever is this permitted for whites without it being labeled as racist.Still,it is encouraging to see that there are conservatives among minorities and that there is growing disenchantment with Obamas policies in the black community.

Are you sure Payne voted for Obama? There's nobody on TV more critical (and rightfully so) of Obama than Payne on Cavuto's show on Saturday mornings.

BlueShoe 11-15-2009 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valuist
Are you sure Payne voted for Obama? There's nobody on TV more critical (and rightfully so) of Obama than Payne on Cavuto's show on Saturday mornings.

In the early part of Becks program was a segment where Payne shows Beck around his old neighborhood and talks about his childhood.During it he states that he voted for Obama.Stunned to hear it,since Payne is a free market guy and not in any way a socialist.As I said in the earlier post,it would seem that race trumped ideology,or perhaps he just was not comfortable with McCain,or it could be a combination of both.

cj's dad 11-15-2009 08:49 AM

blacks and Hispanics elected BHO - plain and simple. The remainder of the country was split.

The Judge 11-15-2009 11:04 AM

Black People Have
 
voted for someone White in all elections including the last one. In most elections the vast majority who are registered and vote, voted for a White democrat for President. This is true even when there was a Black candidate running for office (normally as a 3rd party candidate) so if its so much about race why wouldn't Black people band together with so unspoken signal and vote for any black candidate, 3rd party or no?

Wow you have to be so loyal, as a Black person, that you must vote in mass for a White person in "every" election or they are racist 99.9% of the time isn't good enough it must be 100% of the time but some white people can vote white 100% of the time and they are good Americans. Talk about a double standard.

What was the big fear in the last election "White People would say the are voting for Obama in the polls but once in the booth they would pull the lever for McCain". Why would even be in the equation, who knew what?


So the majority of America votes for the best candidate running and somehow the Black People get it wrong, again, they voted for the wrong person because they voted on race. White People voting for McCain voted on the highest of morals and a conservative ideology it had nothing to do with race. Boy you guys are sad, you got to do better then that.

I know you will win next time. Next time you will have the right candidate, have all the right issues and an answer for health care . Right now Obama is running against himself , and the media, so everything he does fault is found.

Can't wait until you right wingers put up a real person and some with some real baggage and come out with your platform.

Your slip is showing, grow up you lost fair and square.

Making money in the market now are you! Unemployment will be down before you know it. FOUR more YEARS.

ArlJim78 11-15-2009 12:09 PM

how many black votes did McCain receive, versus the number of whites who voted for Obama?

The Judge 11-15-2009 12:30 PM

Who Cares ?
 
its your vote, vote for whoever you want, isn't that the way its done?

wes 11-15-2009 02:35 PM

That is suppose to be the American way. Do make bad choices some time.

wes

johnhannibalsmith 11-15-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge
...vote for whoever you want, isn't that the way its done?

Not really. If it were, I'd be vastly more inclined to offer my support at the ballot.

If I have my choice between baked beans, lamb, or squash - I order a pizza.

(not picking on you Judge... I've just gotten a little cynical about our primary system and two-party system. I know I can use the write in option if it makes me feel better, but that's like ordering the pizza, but knowing it's never coming while you dial the phone... hardly a solution for me...)

hcap 11-15-2009 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj's dad
blacks and Hispanics elected BHO - plain and simple. The remainder of the country was split.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_..._United_States

..White Americans overall (non-Hispanic Whites together with White Hispanics) will remain the majority, at 73.1% (or 303 million out of 420 million)

..About 13.5% of the American people are Black or African American

...Americans of Hispanic origin do not form a race but an ancestral group known as "Hispanic or Latino",[10] the largest ancestral minority in the country, composing 14.8% of the population in 2006.

Seems to me without a sizable number of whites voting along with those 2 smaller groups, you guys would now have that venerable team of McCain/Palin/Joe Wurzelburger instead. And who knows, maybe Obama would move back to Kenya and teach college level Communism/community organization? But then who would you bash 24/7/365

boxcar 11-15-2009 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_..._United_States

..White Americans overall (non-Hispanic Whites together with White Hispanics) will remain the majority, at 73.1% (or 303 million out of 420 million)

..About 13.5% of the American people are Black or African American

...Americans of Hispanic origin do not form a race but an ancestral group known as "Hispanic or Latino",[10] the largest ancestral minority in the country, composing 14.8% of the population in 2006.

Seems to me without a sizable number of whites voting along with those 2 smaller groups, you guys would now have that venerable team of McCain/Palin/Joe Wurzelburger instead. And who knows, maybe Obama would move back to Kenya and teach college level Communism/community organization? But then who would you bash 24/7/365

We'd mock Kenya for being stupid enough to take him back.

Boxcar

BlueShoe 11-15-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcap
And who knows, maybe Obama would move back to Kenya and teach college level Communism/community organization? But then who would you bash 24/7/365

Now thats a job that he would be actually qualified for,unlike his present one.As for the bashing part,after BO there certainly is no lack of worthy targets;Pelosi,Reid,Hillary C.,Schumer,Boxer,almost every Democrat in congress,Big Media,every liberal in America,ad nauseum.We would never run out of work to do.And finally,if we ever did hit a lull,there would always be the left wing loons on this forum to fall back on,although we manage to do a very good job as it is.

cj's dad 11-15-2009 07:34 PM

Thanks h'cap- you made my case

PaceAdvantage 11-16-2009 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcap
But then who would you bash 24/7/365

I can't believe you just went there...not after the last eight years....you might need your short term memory checked by a professional.

hcap 11-16-2009 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
I can't believe you just went there...not after the last eight years....you might need your short term memory checked by a professional.

We have had this discussion before. I am surprised as the moderator of this board, you can't see the enormous increase of Obama bashing as compared to bush bashing. Or won't admit the increase. The 2/7/365 bashing since the run up to the 2008 election till now-a bit over 1 year, has the righty members of this board already surpassing in number of threads, number of replies, the 8 years of the liberal minority here bush bashing.

Political blinders Pa?

hcap 11-16-2009 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj's dad
Thanks h'cap- you made my case

I showed clearly that combined, the Black and Hispanic MINORITY make up only about 28 % of the electorate. You babbled
Quote:

"blacks and Hispanics elected BHO - plain and simple. The remainder of the country was split.
So although whites were split or leaned to McCain/Palin/Joe Wurzelburger, Obama could not have won only due to a 28 % minority.

Since Obama took a majority of college level voters, I could make the case for that minority, or particularly YOUNGER voters who turned out for Obama in large numbers

cj's dad 11-16-2009 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcap
I showed clearly that combined, the Black and Hispanic MINORITY make up only about 28 % of the electorate. You babbledSo although whites were split or leaned to McCain/Palin/Joe Wurzelburger, Obama could not have won only due to a 28 % minority.

Since Obama took a majority of college level voters, I could make the case for that minority, or particularly YOUNGER voters who turned out for Obama in large numbers



Yes, mainly because they are still living at home with mommy and daddy and singing folk songs while sitting around the campfire. One day they will grow up but by then they will be speaking arabic.

JustRalph 11-09-2016 12:22 PM

Bump. From 2009

Trump got 25-29% of the black vote depending on who you read.

29% of Hispanics.

Blacks want off the reservation/plantation........

PaceAdvantage 11-09-2016 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph
Bump. From 2009

Trump got 25-29% of the black vote depending on who you read.

29% of Hispanics.

Blacks want off the reservation/plantation........

Funny, CNN says 8%. Quite a divergence.

Tom 11-09-2016 12:26 PM

CNN would not call some races last night, even hours after FOX did.
Just losers in denial.

CNN - no place for people with minds.:lol::lol::lol:

JustRalph 11-09-2016 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
Funny, CNN says 8%. Quite a divergence.

I heard on radio the 25% number and read 29% somewhere. I also heard he got 8% more than Mitt........

I guess it will come out in the wash

JustRalph 06-23-2018 11:42 PM

They are coming Dems........tick tock......



PaceAdvantage 06-24-2018 12:00 AM

Damn...I think I'm in love with Candace Owens...




JustRalph 06-24-2018 12:59 AM

Yep......

That last tweet is stone cold truth! Brilliant!

hcap 06-24-2018 02:26 AM

Can't believe this thread still exists.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37922587

Who voted for Trump?
53%
of men; 41% backed Clinton
42%
of women; 54% voted for Clinton
58% of white voters - 37% backed Clinton

8% of black voters - 88% voted for Clinton

29% of Hispanics - 65% supported Clinton

"But Trump got a slightly smaller share of the white vote than the more normal Mitt Romney. Conversely, whatever black and Latino voters hadn’t already abandoned the GOP during the Obama era weren’t driven away by Trump, who did no worse with these groups than Romney had"

Whoop de do:lol::lol::lol::lol:

woodtoo 06-24-2018 09:02 AM

It's not always about charts and graphs and numbers. It's about people and choice and decisions.

JustRalph 06-24-2018 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2333128)
It's not always about charts and graphs and numbers. It's about people and choice and decisions.

He knows there is a trend there. They lose more black votes every year

chadk66 06-24-2018 09:29 AM

Everyday more blacks will be voting for Trump. You can't have that low of black unemployment and not receive benefits from that.

hcap 06-24-2018 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2333131)
He knows there is a trend there. They lose more black votes every year

Long term trend favors democrats.

http://blackdemographics.com/wp-cont...e-Patterns.jpg

Black dem votes only dropped 2% between 20122 and 2016. But Black votes dropped overall. Hardly a "trend"

hcap 06-24-2018 10:56 AM

Overall party affiliation, a distinct rise in independents

https://content.gallup.com/origin/ga...aulbp34asq.png

boxcar 06-24-2018 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcap (Post 2333170)
Long term trend favors democrats.

http://blackdemographics.com/wp-cont...e-Patterns.jpg

Black dem votes only dropped 2% between 20122 and 2016. But Black votes dropped overall. Hardly a "trend"

Yeah...but that stat ends during The Anointed One's reign -- you know when things were bad and that was the new norm. But NOW...blacks are financially and economically better off than ever.

I almost feel indebted to Obama for making Trump's job so easy. :coffee:

RunForTheRoses 06-24-2018 03:00 PM

On this I'd have to agree with hcap, the near unanimity of black people I work with hate Trump as much as anyone, they would make FanDan seem like a moderate.



But, check this for the other side:



hcap 06-24-2018 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxcar (Post 2333234)
Yeah...but that stat ends during The Anointed One's reign -- you know when things were bad and that was the new norm. But NOW...blacks are financially and economically better off than ever.

I almost feel indebted to Obama for making Trump's job so easy. :coffee:

You sre not reading to swell bunky. First I pointed out a long term trend. between 1936 and 2012. Approx 19 presidential election cycled. The black vote went from 71% to 93%. Steadily . Could not find graph extending one more election cycle, however I found some stats. And I also said

Black dem votes only dropped 2% between 2012 and 2016. But Black votes dropped overall. Hardly a "trend"

Please don't editorialize nonsense dealing with facts and math. The increase in the black vote over 76 years has nothing to do with your bull about the "anointed" one..

I am beginning to think you are the mentally disjointed one.

boxcar 06-24-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcap (Post 2333308)
You sre not reading to swell bunky. First I pointed out a long term trend. between 1936 and 2012. Approx 19 presidential election cycled. The black vote went from 71% to 93%. Steadily . Could not find graph extending one more election cycle, however I found some stats. And I also said

Black dem votes only dropped 2% between 2012 and 2016. But Black votes dropped overall. Hardly a "trend"

Please don't editorialize nonsense dealing with facts and math. The increase in the black vote over 76 years has nothing to do with your bull about the "anointed" one..

I am beginning to think you are the mentally disjointed one.

Watch the drop in black votes this election. And we will have largely the Anointed One to thank for that since he did nothing of substance for black people when he was in office for years; so Trump, being the natural born genius he is, has already turned that around 180 degrees.

JustRalph 06-24-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses (Post 2333274)
On this I'd have to agree with hcap, the near unanimity of black people I work with hate Trump as much as anyone, they would make FanDan seem like a moderate.



But, check this for the other side:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uojPd3lrUN0

Gotta love JLP :ThmbUp:

I love his “the children of the lie”


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